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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.

Bit of a vicious circle there, if they commit more crime then it'd be natural for them to be suspected of more crime.

When I was in my teens walking about town with a group of mates, you'd be suspected more of certain crimes because your demographic would commit more of certain crimes.

Do you honestly think Blacks receive tougher sentences than other groups for the same crimes?

In the US, unquestionably. In the UK, I’m not certain on that point.

Feel free to give me your stats in this regard, Pete.  I'm happy to be proven wrong here.

P.S. They'd better be robust.

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It's an absolute joy to see Jim Davidson NOT backing down  :)
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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.

Bit of a vicious circle there, if they commit more crime then it'd be natural for them to be suspected of more crime.

When I was in my teens walking about town with a group of mates, you'd be suspected more of certain crimes because your demographic would commit more of certain crimes.

Do you honestly think Blacks receive tougher sentences than other groups for the same crimes?

In the US, unquestionably. In the UK, I’m not certain on that point.

Feel free to give me your stats in this regard, Pete.  I'm happy to be proven wrong here.

P.S. They'd better be robust.
I don’t keep hold of the stats, but I have come to that conclusion based on stats I’ve seen.

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.

Bit of a vicious circle there, if they commit more crime then it'd be natural for them to be suspected of more crime.

When I was in my teens walking about town with a group of mates, you'd be suspected more of certain crimes because your demographic would commit more of certain crimes.

Do you honestly think Blacks receive tougher sentences than other groups for the same crimes?

In the US, unquestionably. In the UK, I’m not certain on that point.

Feel free to give me your stats in this regard, Pete.  I'm happy to be proven wrong here.

P.S. They'd better be robust.
I don’t keep hold of the stats, but I have come to that conclusion based on stats I’ve seen.

Fair play mate.

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.
We do know it and I provided plenty of links to prove it. If you choose not to believe it then that's up to you. But it won't change the fact.

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What has he said there that is racist?
You are not allowed to be white and British with an opinion in this day and age without being called a racist.

**** I'm white and British. Is there anything I can do to avoid this?

Can't believe I'm gonna be labelled a racist. I didn't realise this was a thing.

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.

Although you'll undoubtedly find more crime in poorer areas, I think the drivers are a lot more complex than you describe.

People grow up in poorer socio-economic areas largely because of decisions their parents make, either that or the capabilities of their parents.  In a meritocracy, people with higher IQs will end up with higher paid jobs and their children will have similar characteristics to them, so will go on to do similar.  They'll also end up living in wealthier areas as a result.

So is it a case that their environment drives the crime?  Or is it the case that those more likely to commit crime will end up in poorer areas due to the way they are and the attributes/actions of their parents?  A bit of both I'd say, if you grow up amongst certain types of people then you'd be more likely to be like them, but even then you could use the argument that those people are only there because of the attributes of the individual and their parents too.

I'd be interested to see the stats with regards to the differences between and Scotland and England in terms of race and crime.  Black people have probably come to the two places in different ways and for different reasons, so it'd make sense if what you say is correct.  Black people have come to Scotland in much smaller numbers, and we'll have more of the 'brightest and best' because of the jobs they've come over to do.  Historically, it was different in England.

So in summary:
Certain types of people are more likely to commit crime and these are also the ones who won't earn as much money in life.  These poorer earnings mean they are more likely to live in poorer areas, hence the statistics.

In my opinion, of course :)

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.

Although you'll undoubtedly find more crime in poorer areas, I think the drivers are a lot more complex than you describe.

People grow up in poorer socio-economic areas largely because of decisions their parents make, either that or the capabilities of their parents.  In a meritocracy, people with higher IQs will end up with higher paid jobs and their children will have similar characteristics to them, so will go on to do similar.  They'll also end up living in wealthier areas as a result.

So is it a case that their environment drives the crime?  Or is it the case that those more likely to commit crime will end up in poorer areas due to the way they are and the attributes/actions of their parents?  A bit of both I'd say, if you grow up amongst certain types of people then you'd be more likely to be like them, but even then you could use the argument that those people are only there because of the attributes of the individual and their parents too.

I'd be interested to see the stats with regards to the differences between and Scotland and England in terms of race and crime.  Black people have probably come to the two places in different ways and for different reasons, so it'd make sense if what you say is correct.  Black people have come to Scotland in much smaller numbers, and we'll have more of the 'brightest and best' because of the jobs they've come over to do.  Historically, it was different in England.

So in summary:
Certain types of people are more likely to commit crime and these are also the ones who won't earn as much money in life.  These poorer earnings mean they are more likely to live in poorer areas, hence the statistics.

In my opinion, of course :)
So why are poor white people not committing as many crimes as poor black people from the same areas?

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Racist in being Racist shock
What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.

Although you'll undoubtedly find more crime in poorer areas, I think the drivers are a lot more complex than you describe.

People grow up in poorer socio-economic areas largely because of decisions their parents make, either that or the capabilities of their parents.  In a meritocracy, people with higher IQs will end up with higher paid jobs and their children will have similar characteristics to them, so will go on to do similar.  They'll also end up living in wealthier areas as a result.

So is it a case that their environment drives the crime?  Or is it the case that those more likely to commit crime will end up in poorer areas due to the way they are and the attributes/actions of their parents?  A bit of both I'd say, if you grow up amongst certain types of people then you'd be more likely to be like them, but even then you could use the argument that those people are only there because of the attributes of the individual and their parents too.

I'd be interested to see the stats with regards to the differences between and Scotland and England in terms of race and crime.  Black people have probably come to the two places in different ways and for different reasons, so it'd make sense if what you say is correct.  Black people have come to Scotland in much smaller numbers, and we'll have more of the 'brightest and best' because of the jobs they've come over to do.  Historically, it was different in England.

So in summary:
Certain types of people are more likely to commit crime and these are also the ones who won't earn as much money in life.  These poorer earnings mean they are more likely to live in poorer areas, hence the statistics.

In my opinion, of course :)
So why are poor white people not committing as many crimes as poor black people from the same areas?

Ultimately, because they choose not to.

However, race plays a huge factor in terms of having an urge to commit crime.  Blacks are more likely to have these characteristics.

As well as this, they are far more likely to have their children brought up in fatherless homes, which won't help.

"Single parents across different ethnic groups
The percentages of single parent families vary across different ethnic groups. The single parent statistics published on the gov.uk site in 2019 show what percentage of different ethnic groups were lone parents according to the 2011 census. Within each ethnic group monitored, the percentage of family types which are single parents are as follows: black (24%), mixed (19%), ‘other’ and white (both 10%) and Asian (8%). - https://singleparentsonholiday.co.uk/single-parent-statistics-new-facts-and-figures/"

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So can we put it down to genetics?

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So can we put it down to genetics?

Genetics/race is a predictor but not the cause, in my opinion.  The cause is the choice they make under their own free will.

Folk with certain genetics or of certain races will be more likely to commit crime though.

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What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.
We do know it and I provided plenty of links to prove it. If you choose not to believe it then that's up to you. But it won't change the fact.
Interesting how much of my reply you completely ignored.

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What has he said there that is racist?

Methinks you'll be waiting a long time for an answer.
I'm used to it when the lefties scream "racist". You never get a sensible reply from them.
You did say on Faniel’s board that you think non-whites might be genetically just less virtuous than whites.😎
Did I?
Yes, you did.

Didn’t you?
I don't think that's the words I used.

When pressed, that’s what you said.

Is that not then your view?
Virtuous is not a word I use.

There’s no dodging out of this one. I used the word and asked if it was your view. And you answered.
I said blacks commit far more crime per head of population than white people. It's a fact. Sorry.
And when questioned on that you said what you said.

There’s no getting away from it.
Well if it's not genetics that makes them commit far more crimes than white people PHOP then what is it?

There we go. 😆

Well, as I explained previously. We don’t know that black people commit more crimes. We do know that if you are black you are more likely to be suspected of a crime, more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to be convicted and more likely to receive a tough sentence.
But we DO know they commit more crimes. It's an indisputable fact.
We don’t know that but even if we did (which we don’t) it would vary across regions based on a myriad of factors.

We do know that the drivers of crime are cultural and socio-economic. Where a demographic is more likely to be poor and go come from relative poverty they are more likely to commit crime.

In England, you are more likely to be poor if you are black than if you are white. In Scotland and Ireland, for example, the opposite is the case and the demographic profile of crime volume is different.

Although you'll undoubtedly find more crime in poorer areas, I think the drivers are a lot more complex than you describe.

People grow up in poorer socio-economic areas largely because of decisions their parents make, either that or the capabilities of their parents.  In a meritocracy, people with higher IQs will end up with higher paid jobs and their children will have similar characteristics to them, so will go on to do similar.  They'll also end up living in wealthier areas as a result.

So is it a case that their environment drives the crime?  Or is it the case that those more likely to commit crime will end up in poorer areas due to the way they are and the attributes/actions of their parents?  A bit of both I'd say, if you grow up amongst certain types of people then you'd be more likely to be like them, but even then you could use the argument that those people are only there because of the attributes of the individual and their parents too.

I'd be interested to see the stats with regards to the differences between and Scotland and England in terms of race and crime.  Black people have probably come to the two places in different ways and for different reasons, so it'd make sense if what you say is correct.  Black people have come to Scotland in much smaller numbers, and we'll have more of the 'brightest and best' because of the jobs they've come over to do.  Historically, it was different in England.

So in summary:
Certain types of people are more likely to commit crime and these are also the ones who won't earn as much money in life.  These poorer earnings mean they are more likely to live in poorer areas, hence the statistics.

In my opinion, of course :)
Absolutely. 👍