Where do you stand on it?

I for the most part couldn’t care less. I don’t understand the concept of trans, and I have never found even drag for example to be remotely entertaining or funny, but I have never felt any hostility or antipathy towards any aspect surrounding these issues.

Recent public discourse however has moved me on this issue. I think seeking to change sex is probably a mental illness or personality disorder and I don’t support any advancement of their cause anymore.

The way that particular lobby treats opponents is very creepy and malicious. And I have seen so much stuff like this.

Where do you stand on it?

I for the most part couldn’t care less. I don’t understand the concept of trans, and I have never found even drag for example to be remotely entertaining or funny, but I have never felt any hostility or antipathy towards any aspect surrounding these issues.

Recent public discourse however has moved me on this issue. I think seeking to change sex is probably a mental illness or personality disorder and I don’t support any advancement of their cause anymore.

The way that particular lobby treats opponents is very creepy and malicious. And I have seen so much stuff like this.

Having read various articles on this subject, I think that there are probably two types of people who end up dressing as opposite genders and/or having their bodies mutilated.

1- Those who genuinely think they've been born in the wrong body, which I believe to be a mental illness.
2- Those who do it for attention or to make a misguided point about equality, social constructivism or woke ideology in general.

I have a genuine, deep and heart-felt sympathy for the first type of person.  It must be truly awful to think that way, and I'd never take glee in mocking them.  I simply cannot agree that the best solution is to allow them to 'change' their gender though (something I believe to be impossible), as it's harmful for them.  There is such a strong chance that they'll want to go back to their actual gender at some time down the line, and as well as this, it rarely seems to fix their issues or depression, drug-abuse and others.  This sort of illness, as well as other sexual attractions that differ from the norm, seem to me to be rooted in unhealthy aspects of person's childhood.  Often, abuse or an overbearing mother/non-caring father will have been present in the person's early years.  Such environmental factors don't appear to be the full reason, but do seem to be the driver IMO.  I honestly think that such mindsets can be changed by therapy, and no I don't mean shouting at people or fixing electrodes to the side of their heads, but speaking to them and getting them to think differently about their early years.  EMDR treatment can play a part in this.

As for the second type of person, I have sympathy for them too, but in a different way.  I believe that they could run the risk of ruining their lives completely because of their ideology, which they could grow out of as they get older.  There does seem to be a sub-cuture of mostly younger people who revel in such ways of life.  Also, their awful ways cause this ideology to spread further, which leads it becoming further normalised and further degeneracy/harm being caused.

I wouldn't bring in laws to stop cross-dressing, but I don't see how we can call ourselves a compassionate society when we are actually promoting a state-sponsored ideology that, in my opinion, aids in and encourages people to destroy their lives.

Those images are repugnant, Peter, but people should be exposed to such repugnancy to understand what's going on.

Good and bad in all walks of life. I  don't get them at all though but as long as they are not doing anything bad to others each to their own. Very strange and freeky though.

Each to their own, can't say I think about it too much.

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As for the live and let live approach, this is fine in theory.. I agree that people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.

The problem is that there is a huge effort to normalise this, which does have an affect on others, especially our children.  It is actively being promoted as something that people are just born with, despite there being no evidence for this, same as they do with other orientations, where again there is no evidence of being 'born that way' either.

What happens when your child wants to 'transition' because he's heard it's fine and you're given the jail for not letting them?  This is where this pish will head.

Dare to go against this (or any of the other letters in LGBT) and you're labelled a bigot with some type of phobia.

'Love is love', 'you are who you are' etc are pointless phrases which people use to back up this stuff, but ignore when it suits them.

It's just a case of going further down the slippery slope, I'm afraid.  Expect further degeneracy as time goes on and society becomes more broken.  Men being pumped full of drugs and having their bits mutilated to 'change their gender' would have been unthinkable back in the day.  My bet's on incestuous relationships being normalised next.  I mean, it's not up to us what anyone gets up to in the private life, right?

As for the live and let live approach, this is fine in theory.. I agree that people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm others.

The problem is that there is a huge effort to normalise this, which does have an affect on others, especially our children.  It is actively being promoted as something that people are just born with, despite there being no evidence for this, same as they do with other orientations, where again there is no evidence of being 'born that way' either.

What happens when your child wants to 'transition' because he's heard it's fine and you're given the jail for not letting them?  This is where this pish will head.

Dare to go against this (or any of the other letters in LGBT) and you're labelled a bigot with some type of phobia.

'Love is love', 'you are who you are' etc are pointless phrases which people use to back up this stuff, but ignore when it suits them.

It's just a case of going further down the slippery slope, I'm afraid.  Expect further degeneracy as time goes on and society becomes more broken.  Men being pumped full of drugs and having their bits mutilated to 'change their gender' would have been unthinkable back in the day.  My bet's on incestuous relationships being normalised next.  I mean, it's not up to us what anyone gets up to in the private life, right?

Good post.

As for incest, I would decriminalise it. It disgusts me personally, but I do genuinely believe that non abusive sexual activity between consenting adults shouldn’t be criminalised.

Where abuse is a factor, it should probably be dealt with as that.

At the end of the day, there's a load of weirdos in the world and I don't say that as a derogatory thing against anyone. Everyone has something weird about them, some more than others.

It doesn't bother me what you are in life .
As I always say it's the person you are that matters to me .

I have friends who wife swap and a mate that does hookers and plenty of them.

I have homosexual friends and a lesbian mate .
Got a bit of everything in my life which I'm happy that they are good friends .

Haven't got loads of friends it's mostly people from my upbringing in Northfield or from the 80s in connection with my running .

Fair play Buc, I know gay guys, lesbians and guys who visit hookers lol, and I certainly don't judge them.  In fact, it's impossible for me to judge them.

What annoys me is that if you consider the above to be wrong, then people will say you hate these people or even have a phobia of them.