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Now The Independenistas....
« on: September 06, 2020, 02:36:58 pm »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 04:43:35 pm »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.

Email Joseph Stiglitz.

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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 04:57:28 pm »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.

Email Joseph Stiglitz.

No.
Get him to email me.

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2020, 10:33:24 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2020, 10:38:52 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2020, 10:45:12 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.

Never a truer word spoken.
Economic levers...although they can’t tell you what they are.
They can’t even say which currency I’d pay my mortgage in.

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2020, 10:47:53 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.
We are very lucky to live in Scotand which is part of a very successful Union.  Things are great as they are. I do not know why they do not think that and they need to be very careful what they wish for.
They do not have answers to anything apart from its WMs or the big bad Tories fault.
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Re: Now The Independenistas....
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2020, 10:56:53 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.

Things are not great as they are for many people or at least not as good as they should be. The UK is in long slow decline and has failed to keep pace with the standard of living in other developed nations.

All people are looking for is the political independence to control their economy and other key social levels as this has demonstrably worked well for other countries.

On the culture question again I would mention the strengthened Scandinavian and Nordic cultures with the existence of independent sovereign states and I would point to the overall success of New Zealand which has become arguably the best place to live on Earth since becoming independent.

On culture also, the Church of Scotland is independent and has made a great contribution to Christian culture and religious life across these islands. So why not Scotland itself?

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Re: Now The Independenistas....
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2020, 11:01:30 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.

Things are not great as they are for many people or at least not as good as they should be. The UK is in long slow decline and has failed to keep pace with the standard of living in other developed nations.

All people are looking for is the political independence to control their economy and other key social levels as this has demonstrably worked well for other countries.

On the culture question again I would mention the strengthened Scandinavian and Nordic cultures with the existence of independent sovereign states and I would point to the overall success of New Zealand which has become arguably the best place to live on Earth since becoming independent.

On culture also, the Church of Scotland is independent and has made a great contribution to Christian culture and religious life across these islands. So why not Scotland itself?

What area’s do the SNP want control over the economy that would make our lives better that they don’t currently have?

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2020, 11:06:02 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.

Things are not great as they are for many people or at least not as good as they should be. The UK is in long slow decline and has failed to keep pace with the standard of living in other developed nations.

All people are looking for is the political independence to control their economy and other key social levels as this has demonstrably worked well for other countries.

On the culture question again I would mention the strengthened Scandinavian and Nordic cultures with the existence of independent sovereign states and I would point to the overall success of New Zealand which has become arguably the best place to live on Earth since becoming independent.

On culture also, the Church of Scotland is independent and has made a great contribution to Christian culture and religious life across these islands. So why not Scotland itself?

What area’s do the SNP want control over the economy that would make our lives better that they don’t currently have?

Full control of revenue and expenditure. Off the top of my head:

Corporation tax
National Insurance
VAT
Crown Estates
Capital gains tax
Inheritance tax
Aggregates Levy
Insurance Premium Tax
Motoring Taxes

And full choice over expenditure. Not expenditure allocated in Scotland’s behalf.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2020, 11:06:43 am »
If Scotland could run all its affairs, have control of all of its money, imports, exports, take in all the tax from oil, whisky, food, tourism etc but still be part of the Union, what would everyone's thoughts be on that?

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2020, 11:08:42 am »
If Scotland could run all its affairs, have control of all of its money, imports, exports, take in all the tax from oil, whisky, food, tourism etc but still be part of the Union, what would everyone's thoughts be on that?
We need foreign affairs control as well, and defence as that would be a strategic investment. So it couldn’t work.

I’d be happy for Scotland to join a British and Irish Council like the Nordic Council.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2020, 11:10:12 am »
If Scotland could run all its affairs, have control of all of its money, imports, exports, take in all the tax from oil, whisky, food, tourism etc but still be part of the Union, what would everyone's thoughts be on that?
Would WM cover our deficit every year ?

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2020, 11:11:38 am »
....on here have admitted they don’t have any answers to simple questions regarding how an iScotland would operate, I think it’s only right we move on and revisit the topic when they do.


Always open to hearing answers from them.
They can't answer the questions because they do not have them. They want us to take a giant leap into the unknown risking everything. Seems like a great idea to me 🤔

Their answer to the great leap in the dark is often to claim that things are terrible as they are, with so many living in poverty, inequality etc.

This completely ignores the concept of personal responsibility and that the 'poverty' (which often isn't that bad) is brought about by people making bad choices in life.

You also never hear specific solutions to how they'll solve these supposed problems.

Things are not great as they are for many people or at least not as good as they should be. The UK is in long slow decline and has failed to keep pace with the standard of living in other developed nations.

All people are looking for is the political independence to control their economy and other key social levels as this has demonstrably worked well for other countries.

On the culture question again I would mention the strengthened Scandinavian and Nordic cultures with the existence of independent sovereign states and I would point to the overall success of New Zealand which has become arguably the best place to live on Earth since becoming independent.

On culture also, the Church of Scotland is independent and has made a great contribution to Christian culture and religious life across these islands. So why not Scotland itself?

What area’s do the SNP want control over the economy that would make our lives better that they don’t currently have?

Full control of revenue and expenditure. Off the top of my head:

Corporation tax
National Insurance
VAT
Crown Estates
Capital gains tax
Inheritance tax
Aggregates Levy
Insurance Premium Tax
Motoring Taxes

And full choice over expenditure. Not expenditure allocated in Scotland’s behalf.

Given that they have complete control over health and education, the 2 biggest things that affect our lives, what in that list will make our lives better and better for those that really need it in Scotland?

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Re: Now The Independenistas....
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2020, 11:14:44 am »
If Scotland could run all its affairs, have control of all of its money, imports, exports, take in all the tax from oil, whisky, food, tourism etc but still be part of the Union, what would everyone's thoughts be on that?

We are 15bn, and rising, in the hole each year.
They have never addressed how they would rectify that other than we are being told lies.
They know privately through the growth commission report but won’t share it publicly.
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