Quote from: Slimliner on November 18, 2020, 11:32:54 am

Quote from: MasterOfAssumptions on November 18, 2020, 11:23:13 am

Who exactly are your people?

What do you think?  Also, what do you think of the other points I made?

Whether you are able to prove me wrong by having a rational discussion on the topic remains to be seen.  I really hope you do, but deep down I know that you won't.

Your people would be the Celts I guess. Do we differentiate between Celts and Anglo Saxons in the modern age?

Why then would we differentiate between other groups and where would the line be drawn? Are Irish immigrants ok? Italians? Spanish? Do we limit it Europe only when we’ve just stuck two fingers up to Europe and we currently rely on doctors from the Philippines and nurses from Indonesia?

I just don’t understand what people hope to achieve regarding their opposition to immigration. I mean, what is the endgame?

I don't really look at it like that.  Before Celts there were other tribes, so it could go even further back than that.  It's highly likely that I have some European blood in me too, but I wouldn't know for sure unless I research my family tree which seems like far too much effort!  It's not about purity spiralling, or drawing lines.  I suppose I just look at myself as someone who has come from a line of people who have probably all evolved either near here near or relatively nearby.

It's also not about anyone being OK or anyone not OK, it's more just about having a degree of in-group preference, which I just don't see as sinister in the slightest.

I don't question my Muslim ex-workmate who is from Sudan and is as black as the ace of spades (yes, he does exist btw) why he feels more comfortable in restaurants and cafes in Glasgow that are full of his people or why he ended up moving to a part of the Gorbals which is largely full of his people, so why is this mindset questioned for me?  Do we start asking him where he draws the line?  What Sudanese tribe he is from and whether those around him are from the same one?  And whether others are 'OK' ?

You'll find this type of attitude to be more common with minorities over here than with the indigenous population, hence why you have enclaves of certain ethnic groups all over the country.

To answer your question though, I'd probably prefer the Italians and Spanish over the Irish!