British Nationalists are always so comfortable and content with the UK having the worst pensions by far in Western Europe. This poverty of ambition is another reason why people agitate for change.
Yoons mix up passion for your country and independence as a racist filled anti English movement and that's just not true .
I find that a tad upsetting.
Goodness sakes independence is normal .
Jamaica became independent in 1962 ?? Of all the country's they have let go they are having to keep a tight grip on Scotland if we were a cost to Westminster it would make good business sense to just let us go .
Who are they?
We voted to remain part of the UK.
Scotland voted by a majority not to be "let go". It is NOT England's decision.
We agree. And it seems Westminster now agrees as it prepares for a second referendum.
I doubt very much they are preparing for a referendum any time soon.
Is there evidence that the Tories are about to ghive in and allow a second rheferendum on sheparation? I've now heard this from not only Peter but a mhate of mine too.
Not saying you're wrong, but I've not really been reading much online.
The economics is a side issue for me, although I still think the Union and a more capitalist government would serve us better than a more socialist government under a separate Scotland.
Would Scotland get into the EU? Especially with our astronomical amount of debt? Would we have to pay it off via austerity which apparently only those 'evil' Tories are into?
Would the people of Scotland want back in the EU if other member countries leave?
Would Scots want to ditch the pound for the Euro?
Would we have a hard border with England if we joined the EU?
My main reasons for wanting to remain part of the UK are to do with identity, culture and history. People just seem to eager to throw so much away. Nihilism, bitterness and social justice wokery seem to have overtaken structure, identity and tradition these days.
Why would we want to give up the monarchy? Let's face it, that would eventually happen. As well as bringing cash into the coffers, it's a brilliant bit of tradition and so interesting to read about.
Everyone acts like Scotland is a nation that's always been there and it was forced into a union and England now own us or something, but nothing could be further from the truth. Scotland is a relatively new concept, and kingdoms before that crossed the 'borders' such as Dalriada, Strathclye and Northumbria for example.
The Union has served us bloody well! If Scotland splits off then I'll be sad and embarrassed of my country. I won't make any hysterical comments about moving to England, because I won't, but I'd be heartbroken.
Scotland doesn’t currently have any real debt. It will when it is independent but all countries do, just as all businesses do. The advantage is that economic policy would be tailored to suit Scotland’s needs, not Westminster’s. And our assets will be worth far more than our debt, which is the definition of solvency.
Will we join the EU? I don’t care either way much.
Will there be crippling austerity? Less likely with independence than in the Union and it will be less callously managed.
Will there be a socialist Scottish Government? Unlikely.
On the question of culture, the most damaging thing to British culture in modern times is the union. People loathe the ugly side of British culture and it’s history, and how it seeks to pervade over other cultures. But Scotland will still be part of Britain after independence just as Norway remained part of Scandinavia after its independence.
Independence has strengthened Scandinavian culture and improved the bonds between equal sovereign states. And indeed Nordic culture with the Nordic Council.
Unionists, if they believe in British common ties as their main motivation, should be seeking a velvet divorce as was done with Czecheslovakia. Respect for Scotland with partnership and recognition of its sovereign people would build a great bank of good will across these islands.
What economic policies will an iScotland enact that it can’t do now?
Which assets?
Which currency?
Scotland played a big part in British culture and its history, loathed or not.
I’ve never felt I’ve had culture pervaded on me.
Nationalism is abhorrent.
I could spend a lot of time and effort answering your questions above but you would just ignore it and never accept any of it. That’s Yoon MO. If you really are interested I refer you once again to Professor Blyth.
You are a British Nationalist.
London's government is 2 trillion in dept not sure there's much assets. 
They are also raising the pension age work till you drop because they can't afford to pay it .
We have amongst the lowest pension in Europe with pensioners having to choose whether to heat their homes or eat. 
No such thing as ‘London’s Government’. Showing yer anglophobia there.
You hardly meet a poor pensioner nowadays.
I remember real pensioner poverty.
Pensioner poverty now is only have 4 months in the Algarve instead of 5.
Anglophobia are you trying to say I'm anti English ? Yes I'm anti Westminster and it is based in London run by a huge majority of people from over the border that's a fact .
Pensioners poverty is huge all over the UK I've installed gas heating in folks council houses since 1982 I've seen pensioner poverty alright .
Not sure the pensioners that you know but they seem to be very lucky pensioners with more than likely a good private pension .
My private pension that I'm receiving is £200 per month I've also to now wait till I'm 66 to get a state pension how I'm I going to survive on that ?
I've never understood how it's a London government or how we are ruled by London. Our parliament happens to be based in London, but the seats are filled with elected representatives of their various constituencies. Scotland is easily overrepresented by this with some of our constituencies being tiny. These seats comprising of English, Welsh, NI and Scottish MPs make the decisions.. the London ones don't have ever more clout than the others and they'll only have the most because they are the biggest city, seems fair to me.
If it's simply because England drarfs the other regions in terms of seats so they rule, then that's just about where you draw the lines. I could argue that Shetland is ruled by the central belt using the same logic?
The barnett formula is massively favourable to Scots, hence why Nats go off the nut whenever there's talk of scrapping it.
So how is it a London government?
As for pensions, I'd imagine I see that issue completely differently from you as I will have a different political outlook entirely. If the huge Labour vote in Scotland which switched to the SNP after the referendum really cared about equality and socialism as much as they make out then why didn't they get behind Corbyn? He was a dyed in the wool socialist, maybe he'd have sorted the pensions thing out? Why must it take splitting up the country?
Well the bunk of England had to admit to Scotland's real wealth .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dQFrNYqEE
Oh dear.
You live in a world of confirmation bias.
If you want to talk about bias try the BBC or indeed all but one paper here in Scotland and I wonder who these editors are .
Sadly for you we more than pay our way.
Why is it bias when the bank of England's top man says what Scotland's resources are really worth ?
Video not playing for me .
Try again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WGpayte7KTE
Eh?
It’s the video you put up.
The first one didn't work well not for me after I posted it glad you watched it though .
I didn’t watch it.
Ah you don't really want to know about what your country earns ?
And from Mark Carney who served as the governor of the bank of Canada 2008-2913 and then the bank of England .
Well the bunk of England had to admit to Scotland's real wealth .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J0dQFrNYqEE
Oh dear.
You live in a world of confirmation bias.
If you want to talk about bias try the BBC or indeed all but one paper here in Scotland and I wonder who these editors are .
Sadly for you we more than pay our way.
Why is it bias when the bank of England's top man says what Scotland's resources are really worth ?
Confirmation bias is when you only believe things that confirm your beliefs.
Clipped videos put out by the SNP only feed into your bias.
Even the Scottish government confirm we have a yearly deficit.
The economics is a side issue for me, although I still think the Union and a more capitalist government would serve us better than a more socialist government under a separate Scotland.
Would Scotland get into the EU? Especially with our astronomical amount of debt? Would we have to pay it off via austerity which apparently only those 'evil' Tories are into?
Would the people of Scotland want back in the EU if other member countries leave?
Would Scots want to ditch the pound for the Euro?
Would we have a hard border with England if we joined the EU?
My main reasons for wanting to remain part of the UK are to do with identity, culture and history. People just seem to eager to throw so much away. Nihilism, bitterness and social justice wokery seem to have overtaken structure, identity and tradition these days.
Why would we want to give up the monarchy? Let's face it, that would eventually happen. As well as bringing cash into the coffers, it's a brilliant bit of tradition and so interesting to read about.
Everyone acts like Scotland is a nation that's always been there and it was forced into a union and England now own us or something, but nothing could be further from the truth. Scotland is a relatively new concept, and kingdoms before that crossed the 'borders' such as Dalriada, Strathclye and Northumbria for example.
The Union has served us bloody well! If Scotland splits off then I'll be sad and embarrassed of my country. I won't make any hysterical comments about moving to England, because I won't, but I'd be heartbroken.
Scotland doesn’t currently have any real debt. It will when it is independent but all countries do, just as all businesses do. The advantage is that economic policy would be tailored to suit Scotland’s needs, not Westminster’s. And our assets will be worth far more than our debt, which is the definition of solvency.
Will we join the EU? I don’t care either way much.
Will there be crippling austerity? Less likely with independence than in the Union and it will be less callously managed.
Will there be a socialist Scottish Government? Unlikely.
On the question of culture, the most damaging thing to British culture in modern times is the union. People loathe the ugly side of British culture and it’s history, and how it seeks to pervade over other cultures. But Scotland will still be part of Britain after independence just as Norway remained part of Scandinavia after its independence.
Independence has strengthened Scandinavian culture and improved the bonds between equal sovereign states. And indeed Nordic culture with the Nordic Council.
Unionists, if they believe in British common ties as their main motivation, should be seeking a velvet divorce as was done with Czecheslovakia. Respect for Scotland with partnership and recognition of its sovereign people would build a great bank of good will across these islands.
What economic policies will an iScotland enact that it can’t do now?
Which assets?
Which currency?
Scotland played a big part in British culture and its history, loathed or not.
I’ve never felt I’ve had culture pervaded on me.
Nationalism is abhorrent.
I could spend a lot of time and effort answering your questions above but you would just ignore it and never accept any of it. That’s Yoon MO. If you really are interested I refer you once again to Professor Blyth.
You are a British Nationalist.
Just say you don’t have the answers.
I’ll understand.
Nationalism is abhorrent so your last point is pish.
You don’t answer any questions put to you.
I’m not going to the effort of spoon feeding you only for you to then claim you haven’t been fed.
As I said, just say you don’t know.
You can’t even say what currency we would use.
I could speculate, but you’re right, I don’t know. Nobody can.
This is the technique you use, asking impossible questions and saying that failure to answer them is proof of something. It isn’t.
This while you refuse to answer any question put to you. 😆
Its not a technique.
You think we could flourish as an independent nation but can’t tell me which currency I would pay my mortgage in....and you then accuse me of not answering questions😂😂😂😂
If you want to change the status quo you need to have answers, I don’t.
I could only speculate. I can’t say with any certainty and neither can you in the UK’s economic future. There’s no point in me speculating on those points. I have no desire to persuade you of anything.
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