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guest17 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 27, 2020, 10:19:12 am »

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 09:00:58 am

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on August 27, 2020, 03:48:59 am
Quote from: 1875steve on August 27, 2020, 12:17:46 am
Gers.

Over 72 pages, the word "Estimate" is used 166 times.

That's all you need to know about GERS.

Prepared and endorsed by the Scottish government.

That’s all you need to know about GERS.
Do you always agree with Scottish Government figures?

So he lied

PeterGrant · « **Reply #46 on:** August 27, 2020, 10:32:33 am »

Try to answer a question, mo chara. 😆

guest16 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am »

And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.

PeterGrant · « **Reply #48 on:** August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am »

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am

And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.

Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.

guest3 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 27, 2020, 11:54:56 am »

Interesting.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5976203/independent-scotland-decade-austerity-cuts/

PeterGrant · « **Reply #50 on:** August 27, 2020, 12:03:27 pm »

The IFS is a right wing pressure group with a track record only of complete failure when it comes to making economic predictions.

guest16 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm »

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.

We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

PeterGrant · « **Reply #52 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm »

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.

guest16 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:23:07 pm »

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.

We will never agree on this mate. I think we would have austerity like we haven't seen before in our lifetime. I also firmly believe that we had a once in a lifetime vote and that we should not have another one for 20-30 years. Thats 6 years of our lifes going over the same things and to be honest it is really getting to me and is a horrible, unwanted part of my life. We are very lucky where we live so why can't we just be happy and enjoy our short time that we all have. It is so so tiresome. Sadly neither of us will change our views or opinions on the subject so round and round we go. Its **** 🙁

PeterGrant · « **Reply #54 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:28:01 pm »

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:23:07 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.
We will never agree on this mate. I think we would have austerity like we haven't seen before in our lifetime. I also firmly believe that we had a once in a lifetime vote and that we should not have another one for 20-30 years. Thats 6 years of our lifes going over the same things and to be honest it is really getting to me and is a horrible, unwanted part of my life. We are very lucky where we live so why can't we just be happy and enjoy our short time that we all have. It is so so tiresome. Sadly neither of us will change our views or opinions on the subject so round and round we go. Its **** 🙁

Because the bounds of democracy are not set by what suits unionists. Or anyone. Democracy moves the wheels of the world. If people want to effect change, they do so, via the ballot box.

We all have to accept that.

guest16 · « **Reply #55 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:32:05 pm »

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:28:01 pm

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:23:07 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.
We will never agree on this mate. I think we would have austerity like we haven't seen before in our lifetime. I also firmly believe that we had a once in a lifetime vote and that we should not have another one for 20-30 years. Thats 6 years of our lifes going over the same things and to be honest it is really getting to me and is a horrible, unwanted part of my life. We are very lucky where we live so why can't we just be happy and enjoy our short time that we all have. It is so so tiresome. Sadly neither of us will change our views or opinions on the subject so round and round we go. Its **** 🙁
Because the bounds of democracy are not set by what suits unionists. Or anyone. Democracy moves the wheels of the world. If people want to effect change, they do so, via the ballot box.

We all have to accept that.

No, we had a democratic vote. The nationalists lost, it is them that cannot accept democracy. As I said mate we will never, ever agree. The people of Scotland are split and it is beyond repair. It is absolutely **** and I do blame the Scottish nationalists. They have **** up Scotland and its people 🙁

guest16 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:33:13 pm »

Quote from: AJ on August 27, 2020, 11:54:56 am

Interesting.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5976203/independent-scotland-decade-austerity-cuts/

Scary stuff mate and still there is people that would vote for that. 🤷‍♂️🙁

PeterGrant · « **Reply #57 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:35:23 pm »

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:32:05 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:28:01 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:23:07 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.
We will never agree on this mate. I think we would have austerity like we haven't seen before in our lifetime. I also firmly believe that we had a once in a lifetime vote and that we should not have another one for 20-30 years. Thats 6 years of our lifes going over the same things and to be honest it is really getting to me and is a horrible, unwanted part of my life. We are very lucky where we live so why can't we just be happy and enjoy our short time that we all have. It is so so tiresome. Sadly neither of us will change our views or opinions on the subject so round and round we go. Its **** 🙁
Because the bounds of democracy are not set by what suits unionists. Or anyone. Democracy moves the wheels of the world. If people want to effect change, they do so, via the ballot box.

We all have to accept that.
No, we had a democratic vote. The nationalists lost, it is them that cannot accept democracy. As I said mate we will never, ever agree. The people of Scotland are split and it is beyond repair. It is absolutely **** and I do blame the Scottish nationalists. They have **** up Scotland and its people 🙁

We did lose. But now the people of Scotland want another referendum and polls indicate a different outcome.

That’s the very definition of democracy in action.

You should be happy. You got another 10 years of out the Union.

PeterGrant · « **Reply #58 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:42:14 pm »

And there is much the unionists could have done in the last 10 years which would mean this was not now a live issue.

They could honoured the promises they made in the run up to the referendum.
They could have not voted for Brexit.
They could have allowed a bespoke Brexit deal for Scotland.
They could have not elected Boris Johnson.
They could have chosen not to treat Scotland’s MPs with complete contempt.
They could have chosen not to chuckle away in the Commons at Scots being shipped off as slaves.
They could have chosen not to have a “hostile environment” for incomers
They could have chosen not to create the Windrush scandal
They could have chosen not to decrease disability benefit
They could have chosen not to create the bedroom tax
They could have chosen not to create the **** clause

The list could go on and on. But unionists, if they are unhappy with the current landscape and outlook, they need to look to themselves and take responsibility. People have had enough. It’s a mess of your own making.

guest3 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 27, 2020, 01:44:50 pm »

Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:35:23 pm

Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:32:05 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:28:01 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:23:07 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 01:12:56 pm
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 01:00:59 pm
Quote from: PeterGrant on August 27, 2020, 11:42:45 am
Quote from: LionMo on August 27, 2020, 11:41:10 am
And meanwhile Sturgeon keeps getting the begging bowl out to WM. We would have been truely **** if we had been independent, crisis or no crisis, imo of course.
Every country which has ever become independent from the UK has been they couldn’t cope financially. Not one has ever sought a return to Westminster control of their economies.
We would have austerity for a long, long time if we became independent. Voting to make us so much poorer is absolutely ridiculous for a pipe dream imo. It is gettibg so boring now, why cannot people just accept that we voted no and get on with our lifes. Have another vote in 20-30 years time. It is totally ruining livibg here imo. I really hate it 🙁 It makes me very sad 🙁

We wouldn’t have any such austerity. Every country in history has been told, “don’t leave us, you can’t afford it”. I just absolutely do not believe there is any truth in that.

The majority of people want independence and an even bigger majority want another referendum. Democracy allows for electorates to change their minds.

Unionists just think democracy should be parked when it isn’t going their way and they can’t take it when what they think is their right to eternal hegemony comes under threat through legitimate democratic means.
We will never agree on this mate. I think we would have austerity like we haven't seen before in our lifetime. I also firmly believe that we had a once in a lifetime vote and that we should not have another one for 20-30 years. Thats 6 years of our lifes going over the same things and to be honest it is really getting to me and is a horrible, unwanted part of my life. We are very lucky where we live so why can't we just be happy and enjoy our short time that we all have. It is so so tiresome. Sadly neither of us will change our views or opinions on the subject so round and round we go. Its **** 🙁
Because the bounds of democracy are not set by what suits unionists. Or anyone. Democracy moves the wheels of the world. If people want to effect change, they do so, via the ballot box.

We all have to accept that.
No, we had a democratic vote. The nationalists lost, it is them that cannot accept democracy. As I said mate we will never, ever agree. The people of Scotland are split and it is beyond repair. It is absolutely **** and I do blame the Scottish nationalists. They have **** up Scotland and its people 🙁

We did lose. But now the people of Scotland want another referendum and polls indicate a different outcome.

That’s the very definition of democracy in action.

You should be happy. You got another 10 years of out the Union.

"Once in a generation" we were told by the SNP. You can't just stamp your feet like a spoiled child and demand a referendum every time 53% of 1000 people polled say they want independence. That is NOT democracy.

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