Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No?  Despite it being the fair thing to do.  Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.

Absolute crackers.  You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.

Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No?  Despite it being the fair thing to do.  Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.

Absolute crackers.  You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.

Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.

The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.

Panicking Tories after the YES campaign took the lead then out of the blue came 3 new powers just days before the vote knowing full well the light YES voters would change to no .
It did work because I saw the change .
Bit dirty of them doing that because we were in PURDAH six weeks before the vote .

Quote from: Hardliner on September 14, 2020, 10:35:11 am

Quote from: PeterGrant on September 14, 2020, 10:20:48 am

Quote from: Hardliner on September 14, 2020, 08:26:35 am

Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No?  Despite it being the fair thing to do.  Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.

Absolute crackers.  You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.

Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.

The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.

The Vow was kept deliberately vague and the promises kept from what I can see.



I don't see how Cameron couldn't mention EVEL despite it not being in The Vow though.  It seemed fair enough.  Sadly, the grudge and grievance Nhationalists tried to make out he was wrong for even suggesting it.

The Smith Commission failed to deliver even the first sentence of the Vow. EVEL means that England’s MPs get a vote on Scottish, Welsh and NI reserved affairs but Scottish, Welsh and NI MPs don’t get a vote on English reserved affairs.

It is unionists who are dismantling the union, through sheer bad faith.

I don't see how the first sentence wasnt fulfilled?

I agree about many Unionist politicians harming the Union though.  Many of them shoot themselves in the foot every time.

Quote from: Hardliner on September 14, 2020, 08:26:35 am

Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No?  Despite it being the fair thing to do.  Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.

Absolute crackers.  You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.

Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.

The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.

Did they abstain from Fox Hunting legislation that had no affect in Scotland?
Sunday trading hours?

Quote from: LionMo on September 14, 2020, 11:23:17 am

It was all fulfilled

That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.

Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.

100% correct Pete.

Quote from: PeterGrant on September 14, 2020, 11:57:52 am

Quote from: LionMo on September 14, 2020, 11:23:17 am

It was all fulfilled

That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.

Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.

Is the pretendy parliament still there ?

Aye they can shut the Scottish parliament down and they can sell the NHS and there's nothing we can do about it in Scotland.