Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 06:02:13 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:58:51 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:55:46 pm

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Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

I know.

I'd like us to own our history, come to terms with it then at least we can move on from thinking that the British Empire is still a thing.

Lots of Nats bang on about the British Empire like it was the English Empire.
All to do with anglophobia.

Is it aye?

I know what Scotland was/is part of. I don't want to be a part of that.

And what’s that?

Quote from: PeterGrant on September 09, 2020, 06:07:30 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 06:03:24 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 06:02:13 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:58:51 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:55:46 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:54:41 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

I know.

I'd like us to own our history, come to terms with it then at least we can move on from thinking that the British Empire is still a thing.

Lots of Nats bang on about the British Empire like it was the English Empire.
All to do with anglophobia.

Is it aye?

I know what Scotland was/is part of. I don't want to be a part of that.

And what’s that?

Perfidious Albion.

Which league do they play in?

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 06:19:32 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

That indeed was the case I left school illiterate of Scottish history.

I never did history at standard grade or higher but we did do a bit on Culloden, the Highland Clearances etc in 1st and 2nd year.

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 06:30:25 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 06:19:32 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

That indeed was the case I left school illiterate of Scottish history.

I never did history at standard grade or higher but we did do a bit on Culloden, the Highland Clearances etc in 1st and 2nd year.

I keep meaning to visit the Culloden battlefield and visitors centre.

For information on the clearances I recommend Neil Oliver who has a firm grasp on the subject.

Quote from: PeterGrant on September 09, 2020, 06:33:53 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on September 09, 2020, 06:22:43 pm

We should be immensely proud of what Britain has achieved around the world.  The good FAR outweighs the bad.

That’s a bit like saying Saville wasn’t really so bad because he did a lot of charity work.

That's right that's right .
Churchill.. Pakistan.. Iraq .. I will stop there for now.

Quote from: LionMo on September 09, 2020, 06:45:28 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 06:39:24 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on September 09, 2020, 06:33:53 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on September 09, 2020, 06:22:43 pm

We should be immensely proud of what Britain has achieved around the world.  The good FAR outweighs the bad.

That’s a bit like saying Saville wasn’t really so bad because he did a lot of charity work.

That's right that's right .
Churchill.. Pakistan.. Iraq .. I will stop there for now.

Churchill was one of if not our greatest ever leader.

Oh my.