William Wallace was put to death in the most cruel way imaginable.

I was at Loudoun Hill yesterday and as I viewed the hill through the sculpture in his image, I gave him some thought. He carried out acts of incredible violence against English civilians and I have struggled to think of him as entirely a hero but I have settled on a view now.

We must judge a man not solely on his words and deeds but also with consideration to the context of his times. These were brutal times and Wallace was ruthless, but his heart was almost entirely good. A brave, brave person who has left his mark on history.

Betrayed ultimately by Scottish nobles due to his plan for a written Scottish Constitution in the common good, he is and remains a hero for the ages.

William Wallace was put to death in the most cruel way imaginable.

I was at Loudoun Hill yesterday and as I viewed the hill through the sculpture in his image, I gave him some thought. He carried out acts of incredible violence against English civilians and I have struggled to think of him as entirely a hero but I have settled on a view now.

We must judge a man not solely on his words and deeds but also with consideration to the context of his times. These were brutal times and Wallace was ruthless, but his heart was almost entirely good. A brave, brave person who has left his mark on history.

Betrayed ultimately by Scottish nobles due to his plan for a written Scottish Constitution in the common good, he is and remains a hero for the ages.

In all my years living in Ayrshire, I never once went to Loudoun Hill, to my shame.

William Wallace is someone I know very little about, other than him being able to kill men by the hundreds with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.

Seriously though, it's mental what people did to each other back then.

Murdering bastard like a lot of people back then.

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

I know.

I'd like us to own our history, come to terms with it then at least we can move on from thinking that the British Empire is still a thing.

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:54:41 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

Never, all the bad things that happened was the fault of the English. 🤔

No it wasn't.

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:55:46 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:54:41 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

I know.

I'd like us to own our history, come to terms with it then at least we can move on from thinking that the British Empire is still a thing.

Lots of Nats bang on about the British Empire like it was the English Empire.
All to do with anglophobia.

Is it aye?

I know what Scotland was/is part of. I don't want to be a part of that.

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:58:51 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:55:46 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on September 09, 2020, 05:54:41 pm

Quote from: Spit On McGhee on September 09, 2020, 05:52:54 pm

Quote from: Buc on September 09, 2020, 05:51:00 pm

Back n the 60s I knew nothing about Scottish history .

Nothing about William Wallace.
Nothing about Robert the Bruce  etc etc etc.

Probably because schools only taught history from the British point of view. I mean we are the good guys, are we?

Are we?

Scotland has played a big part in British history.

I know.

I'd like us to own our history, come to terms with it then at least we can move on from thinking that the British Empire is still a thing.

Lots of Nats bang on about the British Empire like it was the English Empire.
All to do with anglophobia.

Is it aye?

I know what Scotland was/is part of. I don't want to be a part of that.

Part of what ?