Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 05:05:35 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 03:24:32 pm

Quote from: Ellondandy on October 21, 2020, 03:15:52 pm

Eu citizens are going to a huge factor if there is another one.  I worked with 40 or so at the time of the last referendum and most were going to vote no, don’t blame them given what they were told. That would be completely reversed this time around after brexit, I’m not sure how many we have in this country, think I heard circa 300,000 but that could be wrong. That’s a huge swing the other way.

This would depend on the EU completely reversing their position on Scotland's entry to the EU though.

The Unionists told the truth in 2014, an independent Scotland would have meant no EU membership.

The seps lied about eu membership.
The dafties fell for and are still falling for it.

Very true.

Now they are holding onto a fake promise of guaranteed EU membership after a No vote which was never the case.

A bit like their lies over The Vow, which was actually kept.

They talked a heavy amount of p1sh about the oil price too, which conveniently they don't mention any more.

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 05:46:29 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 05:05:35 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 03:24:32 pm

Quote from: Ellondandy on October 21, 2020, 03:15:52 pm

Eu citizens are going to a huge factor if there is another one.  I worked with 40 or so at the time of the last referendum and most were going to vote no, don’t blame them given what they were told. That would be completely reversed this time around after brexit, I’m not sure how many we have in this country, think I heard circa 300,000 but that could be wrong. That’s a huge swing the other way.

This would depend on the EU completely reversing their position on Scotland's entry to the EU though.

The Unionists told the truth in 2014, an independent Scotland would have meant no EU membership.

The seps lied about eu membership.
The dafties fell for and are still falling for it.

Very true.

Now they are holding onto a fake promise of guaranteed EU membership after a No vote which was never the case.

A bit like their lies over The Vow, which was actually kept.

They talked a heavy amount of p1sh about the oil price too, which conveniently they don't mention any more.

Everyone knows Scotland will be welcomed into the EU if it wishes to join post independence. All we really need though is single market membership and there won’t be any barrier to that.

Looking forward to the investment in Scotland from businesses around the globe as businesses choose Scotland over London for their expansions and investments.

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 09:36:43 pm

I think that a kind of social deal will need to be done with unionists as we approach independence. There will need to be a form of acceptance and even reconciliation at a national level.

That deal will be that they join in working for the best interests of an independent Scotland and they get to keep their monarchy.

When IndyRef2 happens after Boris makes a sudden U-turn(No sniggering at the back), the Nhationalists win (Again, no sniggering!) and the social deal is made (What did I tell you about sniggering!?!) then we'd just wait til Scotland goes t1ts up and campaign for a 3rd referendum, which the Unionists would win.  The Union would welcome us back in as the Scottish Tories will have kept rUK sweet.

It'd be like the Darien Scheme scenario all over again.

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 09:50:06 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 09:36:43 pm

I think that a kind of social deal will need to be done with unionists as we approach independence. There will need to be a form of acceptance and even reconciliation at a national level.

That deal will be that they join in working for the best interests of an independent Scotland and they get to keep their monarchy.

When IndyRef2 happens after Boris makes a sudden U-turn(No sniggering at the back), the Nhationalists win (Again, no sniggering!) and the social deal is made (What did I tell you about sniggering!?!) then we'd just wait til Scotland goes t1ts up and campaign for a 3rd referendum, which the Unionists would win.  The Union would welcome us back in as the Scottish Tories will have kept rUK sweet.

It'd be like the Darien Scheme scenario all over again.

It’s unlikely to be like the Darien scheme again. Scotland has a first world economic infrastructure and is rich in water and energy, as well being a net exporter of goods.

It’s also rich in land and is likely to experience hyper economic growth as at least half a million people move to Scotland from England in the 10 year post independence, bringing their skills, wealth and tax revenues with them.

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:10:12 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 09:50:06 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 09:36:43 pm

I think that a kind of social deal will need to be done with unionists as we approach independence. There will need to be a form of acceptance and even reconciliation at a national level.

That deal will be that they join in working for the best interests of an independent Scotland and they get to keep their monarchy.

When IndyRef2 happens after Boris makes a sudden U-turn(No sniggering at the back), the Nhationalists win (Again, no sniggering!) and the social deal is made (What did I tell you about sniggering!?!) then we'd just wait til Scotland goes t1ts up and campaign for a 3rd referendum, which the Unionists would win.  The Union would welcome us back in as the Scottish Tories will have kept rUK sweet.

It'd be like the Darien Scheme scenario all over again.

It’s unlikely to be like the Darien scheme again. Scotland has a first world economic infrastructure and is rich in water and energy, as well being a net exporter of goods.

It’s also rich in land and is likely to experience hyper economic growth as at least half a million people move to Scotland from England in the 10 year post independence, bringing their skills, wealth and tax revenues with them.

Rich in water😂