Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:44:06 pm

Quote from: Jtc on October 21, 2020, 02:40:50 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:09:22 pm

I don’t think the electorate in England is very well placed to lecture other countries on “economic suicide”. Or on any aspect of economic management come to that.

The unionists pushed their luck too far since 2014. It will be very much an uphill struggle to convince voters to back them again.

Pre Covid anyone who wanted a job in England could get one, maybe the rate might need raising on the minimum wage but the jobs were there. Unfortunately we have a element of our people who think work is a choice and expect the state to fund them not to work. Crackers imo.Im sure Scotland has its fair share of these. The proof about the jobs? Easy. Why are so many EEs able to get jobs but a bloke over the road from the factory can’t or won’t. No blame attached to the EEs or any immigrant by me. I blame the successive governments who have allowed people to duck out of work

I don’t care if a small percentage of the population ducks out of work. They won’t have the life I have and I wouldn’t swap places with them.

The cost to society in terms of cash is negligible in the grand scheme of things. Benefits are a drop in the ocean compared to the tax which is not being collected from business.

So I guess I just don’t care if a small percentage of people sit on their arses and do very little.

You told us you were c300k in debt.
Some life.

Most people have mortgages, Thickstuff. My assets are worth more than my debt and I am solvent day to day for which I am thankful.

Would I want to swap places with someone who doesn’t work and watches TV all day on benefits? No. But I certainly don’t hate, resent or think these people are causing some kind of massive problem.

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 03:41:22 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:44:06 pm

Quote from: Jtc on October 21, 2020, 02:40:50 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:09:22 pm

I don’t think the electorate in England is very well placed to lecture other countries on “economic suicide”. Or on any aspect of economic management come to that.

The unionists pushed their luck too far since 2014. It will be very much an uphill struggle to convince voters to back them again.

Pre Covid anyone who wanted a job in England could get one, maybe the rate might need raising on the minimum wage but the jobs were there. Unfortunately we have a element of our people who think work is a choice and expect the state to fund them not to work. Crackers imo.Im sure Scotland has its fair share of these. The proof about the jobs? Easy. Why are so many EEs able to get jobs but a bloke over the road from the factory can’t or won’t. No blame attached to the EEs or any immigrant by me. I blame the successive governments who have allowed people to duck out of work

I don’t care if a small percentage of the population ducks out of work. They won’t have the life I have and I wouldn’t swap places with them.

The cost to society in terms of cash is negligible in the grand scheme of things. Benefits are a drop in the ocean compared to the tax which is not being collected from business.

So I guess I just don’t care if a small percentage of people sit on their arses and do very little.

You told us you were c300k in debt.
Some life.

Most people have mortgages, Thickstuff. My assets are worth more than my debt and I am solvent day to day for which I am thankful.

Would I want to swap places with someone who doesn’t work and watches TV all day on benefits? No. But I certainly don’t hate, resent or think these people are causing some kind of massive problem.

S U R E

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 03:55:44 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 03:41:22 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:44:06 pm

Quote from: Jtc on October 21, 2020, 02:40:50 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:09:22 pm

I don’t think the electorate in England is very well placed to lecture other countries on “economic suicide”. Or on any aspect of economic management come to that.

The unionists pushed their luck too far since 2014. It will be very much an uphill struggle to convince voters to back them again.

Pre Covid anyone who wanted a job in England could get one, maybe the rate might need raising on the minimum wage but the jobs were there. Unfortunately we have a element of our people who think work is a choice and expect the state to fund them not to work. Crackers imo.Im sure Scotland has its fair share of these. The proof about the jobs? Easy. Why are so many EEs able to get jobs but a bloke over the road from the factory can’t or won’t. No blame attached to the EEs or any immigrant by me. I blame the successive governments who have allowed people to duck out of work

I don’t care if a small percentage of the population ducks out of work. They won’t have the life I have and I wouldn’t swap places with them.

The cost to society in terms of cash is negligible in the grand scheme of things. Benefits are a drop in the ocean compared to the tax which is not being collected from business.

So I guess I just don’t care if a small percentage of people sit on their arses and do very little.

You told us you were c300k in debt.
Some life.

Most people have mortgages, Thickstuff. My assets are worth more than my debt and I am solvent day to day for which I am thankful.

Would I want to swap places with someone who doesn’t work and watches TV all day on benefits? No. But I certainly don’t hate, resent or think these people are causing some kind of massive problem.

S U R E

Noah’s upset.

The benefits culture that the snp have caused in scotland is a disgrace.

Eh? They’ve only had control of benefits for about 5 minutes, and employment has been at record levels in the past 10 years!

😂

Quote from: Buc on October 21, 2020, 03:24:52 pm

Quote from: Ellondandy on October 21, 2020, 03:15:52 pm

Eu citizens are going to a huge factor if there is another one.  I worked with 40 or so at the time of the last referendum and most were going to vote no, don’t blame them given what they were told. That would be completely reversed this time around after brexit, I’m not sure how many we have in this country, think I heard circa 300,000 but that could be wrong. That’s a huge swing the other way.

Add the English vote of 418000 when 75% voted no the last time now there's nothing like that will vote for the union they even turn up in good numbers in our marches for indy.
Maybe 50% . because of Europe.

Was it over one billion at the last indy march?

1.5 I heard.

Quote from: LionMo on October 21, 2020, 04:54:31 pm

The benefits culture that the snp have caused in scotland is a disgrace.

Eh? They’ve only had control of benefits for about 5 minutes, and employment has been at record levels in the past 10 years!

😂

Are you stupid?

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 04:28:43 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 03:59:47 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 03:55:44 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 03:41:22 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:44:06 pm

Quote from: Jtc on October 21, 2020, 02:40:50 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 02:09:22 pm

I don’t think the electorate in England is very well placed to lecture other countries on “economic suicide”. Or on any aspect of economic management come to that.

The unionists pushed their luck too far since 2014. It will be very much an uphill struggle to convince voters to back them again.

Pre Covid anyone who wanted a job in England could get one, maybe the rate might need raising on the minimum wage but the jobs were there. Unfortunately we have a element of our people who think work is a choice and expect the state to fund them not to work. Crackers imo.Im sure Scotland has its fair share of these. The proof about the jobs? Easy. Why are so many EEs able to get jobs but a bloke over the road from the factory can’t or won’t. No blame attached to the EEs or any immigrant by me. I blame the successive governments who have allowed people to duck out of work

I don’t care if a small percentage of the population ducks out of work. They won’t have the life I have and I wouldn’t swap places with them.

The cost to society in terms of cash is negligible in the grand scheme of things. Benefits are a drop in the ocean compared to the tax which is not being collected from business.

So I guess I just don’t care if a small percentage of people sit on their arses and do very little.

You told us you were c300k in debt.
Some life.

Most people have mortgages, Thickstuff. My assets are worth more than my debt and I am solvent day to day for which I am thankful.

Would I want to swap places with someone who doesn’t work and watches TV all day on benefits? No. But I certainly don’t hate, resent or think these people are causing some kind of massive problem.

S U R E

Noah’s upset.

You Coyne and Buc should start a sub board where you can brag away to your hearts content.

🙄

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 03:24:32 pm

Quote from: Ellondandy on October 21, 2020, 03:15:52 pm

Eu citizens are going to a huge factor if there is another one.  I worked with 40 or so at the time of the last referendum and most were going to vote no, don’t blame them given what they were told. That would be completely reversed this time around after brexit, I’m not sure how many we have in this country, think I heard circa 300,000 but that could be wrong. That’s a huge swing the other way.

This would depend on the EU completely reversing their position on Scotland's entry to the EU though.

The Unionists told the truth in 2014, an independent Scotland would have meant no EU membership.

The seps lied about eu membership.
The dafties fell for and are still falling for it.

Very true.

Now they are holding onto a fake promise of guaranteed EU membership after a No vote which was never the case.

A bit like their lies over The Vow, which was actually kept.

They talked a heavy amount of p1sh about the oil price too, which conveniently they don't mention any more.