Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 11:42:56 am

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 10:46:33 am

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:33:00 am

If it’s in the manifesto, and people vote for it, then by international law and the UN charter, a referendum must follow.

The alternative is constitutional crisis and political Armageddon for the unionist cause.

Just have the guts to fight a referendum if the electorate in Scotland votes for one. It’s your only chance.

Anyone would think the unionists are running scared. It should be an opportunity for them to smash independence good and proper, but they don’t seem keen. 🤔

**Picks up bin lid**

There's nothing in International law or the UN charter that grants a 2nd referendum if voted in a manifesto for a devolved assembly which has nothing to do with such a matter.

If there is something, then I invite you to post it up here.

Either that or you could start legal proceedings yourself.  I'm sure Buc could stump up the cash!

There are legal proceedings underway. 😎

Who is paying ?

Quote from: LionMo on October 21, 2020, 11:54:55 am

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 11:42:56 am

Quote from: Hardliner on October 21, 2020, 10:46:33 am

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:33:00 am

If it’s in the manifesto, and people vote for it, then by international law and the UN charter, a referendum must follow.

The alternative is constitutional crisis and political Armageddon for the unionist cause.

Just have the guts to fight a referendum if the electorate in Scotland votes for one. It’s your only chance.

Anyone would think the unionists are running scared. It should be an opportunity for them to smash independence good and proper, but they don’t seem keen. 🤔

**Picks up bin lid**

There's nothing in International law or the UN charter that grants a 2nd referendum if voted in a manifesto for a devolved assembly which has nothing to do with such a matter.

If there is something, then I invite you to post it up here.

Either that or you could start legal proceedings yourself.  I'm sure Buc could stump up the cash!

There are legal proceedings underway. 😎

Who is paying ?

Private individuals. Look it up on the internet.

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 12:08:09 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:33:00 am

If it’s in the manifesto, and people vote for it, then by international law and the UN charter, a referendum must follow.

The alternative is constitutional crisis and political Armageddon for the unionist cause.

Just have the guts to fight a referendum if the electorate in Scotland votes for one. It’s your only chance.

Anyone would think the unionists are running scared. It should be an opportunity for them to smash independence good and proper, but they don’t seem keen. 🤔

They can’t put something in the manifesto that’s outwith their remit daft erse.
Only fückin idiots fall for that old shite.

There is a clear precedent for it, and in terms of international law, yes you can.

I’m not debating the rights and wrongs with you, I’m just telling how things are likely to play out.

Anyone know what currency an iScotland would be using?
Been asking since 2013 but still no answer.

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:35:12 am

And JTC, the SNP are polling in the high 50s for Holyrood and Westminster.

It’s likely that the SNP and Greens combined will take more than 60% of the vote at Holyrood next May.

Polls are only a indication of how people are honking at the moment in time. Also they can be skewed by askin an question a certain way or asking a certain type of person.You held pole position on the grid in 14.
That will be 60% thinking the SNP and Greens are best in Scotland (if it happens).Not the best in the UK or saying they want a Indy ref . Of course they will attach a Indy ref to their policy, they have to.I doubt that will be why X amount will be voting for them though
Think about it. In England people have voted the Tories as the main party. Do you seriously think a lot want to vote Tory?The stark fact is a decent amount would not but faced ( pre CV) with a choice of Tories or a plan off Labour which seems extreme to a lot of their natural supporters they vote Tory because what they have they want to keep and basically are not prepared to risk their house and job on a unproven set of policies in the U.K.They have probably noticed when the said policies have been tried elsewhere they have brought a disastrous result .

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 12:14:08 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 12:08:09 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:33:00 am

If it’s in the manifesto, and people vote for it, then by international law and the UN charter, a referendum must follow.

The alternative is constitutional crisis and political Armageddon for the unionist cause.

Just have the guts to fight a referendum if the electorate in Scotland votes for one. It’s your only chance.

Anyone would think the unionists are running scared. It should be an opportunity for them to smash independence good and proper, but they don’t seem keen. 🤔

They can’t put something in the manifesto that’s outwith their remit daft erse.
Only fückin idiots fall for that old shite.

There is a clear precedent for it, and in terms of international law, yes you can.

I’m not debating the rights and wrongs with you, I’m just telling how things are likely to play out.

They can...but we all know why.
Only a fûckin idiot will vote on that basis.

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 12:23:38 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 12:14:08 pm

Quote from: TheVoiceOfReason on October 21, 2020, 12:08:09 pm

Quote from: PeterGrant on October 21, 2020, 10:33:00 am

If it’s in the manifesto, and people vote for it, then by international law and the UN charter, a referendum must follow.

The alternative is constitutional crisis and political Armageddon for the unionist cause.

Just have the guts to fight a referendum if the electorate in Scotland votes for one. It’s your only chance.

Anyone would think the unionists are running scared. It should be an opportunity for them to smash independence good and proper, but they don’t seem keen. 🤔

They can’t put something in the manifesto that’s outwith their remit daft erse.
Only fückin idiots fall for that old shite.

There is a clear precedent for it, and in terms of international law, yes you can.

I’m not debating the rights and wrongs with you, I’m just telling how things are likely to play out.

They can...but we all know why.
Only a fûckin idiot will vote on that basis.

But you are incredibly thick. So how would you know if you were wrong?