Perhaps the righties will coalesce round a chosen poster to compete.
I think Frem will sweep to victory and be crowned POTY and shall carry the title of Lord of Ethicicity into the new year.
Or perhaps Ethicist Laureate.
who is right wing on here Peter?. I asked you this last week but got no answer
I am right wing on some issues, left on some issues and far right on some issues.
I actually have views like leaving the EU and protecting British jobs which apparently make me right wing these days.
The same views as Bob Crowe and Scargill I hasten to add.The neo liberal left don’t even know what the ‘real working class ‘ left believe mate
That’s why Labour leak votes
Hardliner's Mo klaxon will be going off
Perhaps the righties will coalesce round a chosen poster to compete.
I think Frem will sweep to victory and be crowned POTY and shall carry the title of Lord of Ethicicity into the new year.
Or perhaps Ethicist Laureate.
who is right wing on here Peter?. I asked you this last week but got no answer
I am right wing on some issues, left on some issues and far right on some issues.
I actually have views like leaving the EU and protecting British jobs which apparently make me right wing these days.
The same views as Bob Crowe and Scargill I hasten to add.The neo liberal left don’t even know what the ‘real working class ‘ left believe mate
That’s why Labour leak votes
Absolutely!
Todays neo liberals would rather let in tonnes of unskilled workers in from other countries, which force down the wages of the working class they are supposed to represent.
How do we define working class in the UK in 2020?
How do we define working class in the UK in 2020?
Very hard to define nowadays and it's a term I don't really like using, but I can't think of how else to explain the people I mean.
I hate the pigeon holing of the class system. A lot of folk look down on the working class but also the working class can judge someone who speaks well and has a bit of money. I'd rather
**** just took folk as they are regardless of background, status or career. Im a leftie apparently and definitely socialist leaning but I'll take folk as they come. I don't like a left wing socialists like George Galloway but I respect a millionaire businessesman like the boy who is the CEO of Timpsons.
I hate the pigeon holing of the class system. A lot of folk look down on the working class but also the working class can judge someone who speaks well and has a bit of money. I'd rather **** just took folk as they are regardless of background, status or career. Im a leftie apparently and definitely socialist leaning but I'll take folk as they come. I don't like a left wing socialists like George Galloway but I respect a millionaire businessesman like the boy who is the CEO of Timpsons.
A very wise stance to take, MOA.
Growing up in a small town, you mixed with folk from all different 'classes' and no one cared. I see it re-emerge as people get older and mix with those doing the same type of job though.
I don't necessarily see class as a bad thing anyway. There's a strong case for mixing with your own meaning less jealousy, less competing with your peers and more happiness, but I just don't think it even exists that much now.
I've got mixed feelings about George Galloway. He is like a cartoon character in a way and can be entertaining, but he also makes silly, emotive, soundbitey points. However, if you hear him talk sensibly then he's a wealth of knowledge and an articulate man IMO.
I hate the pigeon holing of the class system. A lot of folk look down on the working class but also the working class can judge someone who speaks well and has a bit of money. I'd rather **** just took folk as they are regardless of background, status or career. Im a leftie apparently and definitely socialist leaning but I'll take folk as they come. I don't like a left wing socialists like George Galloway but I respect a millionaire businessesman like the boy who is the CEO of Timpsons.
A very wise stake to take, MOA.
Growing up in a small town, you mixed with folk from all different 'classes' and no one cared. I see it re-emerge as people get older and mix with those doing the same type of job though.
I don't necessarily see class as a bad thing anyway. There's a strong case for mixing with your own meaning less jealousy, less competing with your peers and more happiness, but I just don't think it even exists that much now.
I've got mixed feelings about George Galloway. He is like a cartoon character in a way and can be entertaining, but he also makes silly, emotive, soundbitey points. However, if you hear him talk sensibly then he's a wealth of knowledge and an articulate man IMO.
Good points, mate
On the subject of George Galloway. He should speak for a lot of what I believe in but I know as a Dundonian a lot of the stuff he claims is absolute bullshit. The term champagne socialist gets thrown about and normally I don't think there is anything the matter with someone enjoying the fruits of their labour providing they are looking after the folk on the frontline. I've mentioned the Timpson guy as a very rich successful guy but someone who looks after his staff and will happily cut part of his very successful business profits and lifestyle if it meant the shop worker is looked after. Regardless hw will still be a millionaire. Galloway for me is in it for himself, the anti indy, pro brexit and in the pockets of saddam Hussain as much as I might agree with some of his views is all to line his pockets. Just like to add his views on indy has no influence on my opinion on him
I'll add as well George Galloway is a very intelligent guy and his speech at the US Senate was superb. I just don't think he is very sincere
I met him once and he didn’t come across very well.
How do we define working class in the UK in 2020?
A good start would be people who go to work . It’s a cultural thing as well . People who are supposed to represent us have allowed millions of unskilled workers to be used by capitalism to crush the indigenous population and the immigrants who arrived prior to Blair's open door policies . When I say crush I’m talking about wages and rights. We can console ourselves though watching our flat screen TVs which were cheap as they were imported
I’d like to add to my post people who get off their backsides and have a go can still prosper in the U.K. So the class lines have sort of moved a bit by people from a certain background now through grafting hard being able to live in areas perhaps their parents couldn’t. Doesn’t mean the white van man living in a posh area feels middle class.
I think a lot of ‘ class’ is marked by education now so I’m told.
So a kid with a degree in gender studies can be classed as middle class.
I hate the pigeon holing of the class system. A lot of folk look down on the working class but also the working class can judge someone who speaks well and has a bit of money. I'd rather **** just took folk as they are regardless of background, status or career. Im a leftie apparently and definitely socialist leaning but I'll take folk as they come. I don't like a left wing socialists like George Galloway but I respect a millionaire businessesman like the boy who is the CEO of Timpsons.
A very wise stake to take, MOA.
Growing up in a small town, you mixed with folk from all different 'classes' and no one cared. I see it re-emerge as people get older and mix with those doing the same type of job though.
I don't necessarily see class as a bad thing anyway. There's a strong case for mixing with your own meaning less jealousy, less competing with your peers and more happiness, but I just don't think it even exists that much now.
I've got mixed feelings about George Galloway. He is like a cartoon character in a way and can be entertaining, but he also makes silly, emotive, soundbitey points. However, if you hear him talk sensibly then he's a wealth of knowledge and an articulate man IMO.
Good points, mate
On the subject of George Galloway. He should speak for a lot of what I believe in but I know as a Dundonian a lot of the stuff he claims is absolute bullshit. The term champagne socialist gets thrown about and normally I don't think there is anything the matter with someone enjoying the fruits of their labour providing they are looking after the folk on the frontline. I've mentioned the Timpson guy as a very rich successful guy but someone who looks after his staff and will happily cut part of his very successful business profits and lifestyle if it meant the shop worker is looked after. Regardless hw will still be a millionaire. Galloway for me is in it for himself, the anti indy, pro brexit and in the pockets of saddam Hussain as much as I might agree with some of his views is all to line his pockets. Just like to add his views on indy has no influence on my opinion on him
Timpsons are excellent from what Iv read and heard.
Whilst I’m a Brexiter and Unionist I’d pretty much agree on GG with you. He is easily a match for Nicola though and she knows it.
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