Quote from: Coyne on October 11, 2020, 08:08:54 pm

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Quote from: Coyne on October 11, 2020, 07:07:26 pm

Quote from: Hardliner on October 11, 2020, 06:56:01 pm

We're currently in a state of confusion and knee-jerk reactions.  We are in the middle of a pandemic and many remainers are annoyed that Brexit has went through.  Everything is up in the air and in many ways we don't know what's round the corner.

I've saw people on my facebook flip to being yessers, only to give it up, then recently claim they were yessers again because of how much better Nicola has handled the pandemic than Boris.  These people have now, funnily enough, went quiet.

There are so many variables just now, and I think that doing a Fremsley and making an assumption that Scots will now remain majority pro-separation for good is a mistake.  Boris will remain PM at least until the virus is sorted, Brexit is done and dusted and everyone knows what it means.  Who'd be next PM?  Sunak?  Would he be the same hate figure as Johnson?  I don't actually mind Boris, but he's the ultimate PR disaster for Scottish Unionists as he's the ultimate hate figure up here for moderates and some people genuinely believe he's far right!  I can say that I completely disavow him in this regard!

If Brexit isn't as disastrous as many predicted, then would people still be so angry?  If other countries edge toward leaving the EU, would it even be an attraction to re-join?  The dynamic will change as some industries shrink and others grow due to differences in trade deals.  Re-joining the EU would change this which would create problems too.
 Would Scotland even be allowed in with it's huge debt?  Could we keep the pound?!  All these issues are being ignored for now, because there's no chance of a referendum in the near future, but they'll come up if there ever is one.  The recent upsurge in Separatist support is knee jerk and at least partly driven by emotion, as many are angry with big bad Boris the Eton hate figure.

In short, the separatist support in the polls is built on the sand.

All the Polls before the 2014 referendum on separation consistently showed the gap between Yes and No to be much smaller than it ended up being, which was actually closer to 11% than the 10% which is often claimed.  This will still be the case, unless the polling companies have changed their methodology.  Never underestimate the power of the shy tory vote.

These polls are making the Unionists get their act together, so might not be such a bad thing for us Yoons.

Now we are friends.

Why did you bring my mate Fremsley into it?

Seems very petty and silly.

I never read the rest of that

Hi Coynster,

The Master of Assumptions made assumptions about me to get out of debating an issue.  He used weak analogies and other underhand tactics to scurry out of the debate.  I was actually quite kind to him in the end, refusing to join in with others who were calling him a wet blanket.

It's nowhere near as petty and silly as your chasing around of AJ

Oh dear, I fear this beautiful friendship is heading for turbulent waters.

I can see what sides are taken, for me that’s absolutely hootsville.

You do what you need to my wee lamb.

The rest of the grown ups will move on

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Lol, a few illegal pints in him and he can't help but get wide 

I thought you were a semi intellectual man.

I was wrong, nobody clever calls someone “wide”

That’s council house talk 👍

Triggered because he was called wide 

Phucking hell 😂😂😂
Game, set and match to me.

Have a lie down, think about it and I’ll sword you again tomorrow.

😁

Yes Coyne, game, set and match to you 

No lie down for me I'm afraid, I'm enjoying this