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Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: PeterGrant on November 17, 2020, 07:01:14 pm
Peter,

With the most recent poll only showing a 2% gap when the undecideds were stripped out, less than the amount the pre-2014 were out by in favour to the Nats, and bearing in mind most undecideds fell to a No vote in 2014, and that Ian Blackford recently refused to even suggest there would be a 2021 Holyrood manifesto commitment to ask for another referendum next year, as well as giving no strategy if Boris continues to say No, with the optics of PM Boris and Scotland having been taken out of the EU being the worse ever, and Salmond still to tear the SNP apart once the virus has calmed down.. is this good or bad news for the Nationalists?

Good news, I’d say, Comrade Hardliner.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest19 on November 17, 2020, 06:44:51 pm
Peter,

With the most recent poll only showing a 2% gap when the undecideds were stripped out, less than the amount the pre-2014 were out by in favour to the Nats, and bearing in mind most undecideds fell to a No vote in 2014, and that Ian Blackford recently refused to even suggest there would be a 2021 Holyrood manifesto commitment to ask for another referendum next year, as well as giving no strategy if Boris continues to say No, with the optics of PM Boris and Scotland having been taken out of the EU being the worse ever, and Salmond still to tear the SNP apart once the virus has calmed down.. is this good or bad news for the Nationalists?
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest3 on November 17, 2020, 06:36:18 pm
I did answer it. You could be in front in 115 polls in a row and it wouldn't bother me.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: PeterGrant on November 17, 2020, 06:20:04 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
A 2% movement between one YouGov poll and another is neither good nor bad.

Question for you, and I’m sure you’ll answer without dodging.

Is 15 Yes polls in a row good news or bad news for unionists?
Pete, I honestly don't pay much attention to polls these days. They've been wrong on so many big elections/referendums that they're not worth getting excited about.
Disappointed you didn’t answer the question.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest17 on November 17, 2020, 06:18:59 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
A 2% movement between one YouGov poll and another is neither good nor bad.

Question for you, and I’m sure you’ll answer without dodging.

Is 15 Yes polls in a row good news or bad news for unionists?
Pete, I honestly don't pay much attention to polls these days. They've been wrong on so many big elections/referendums that they're not worth getting excited about.

Gives him a wee stiffy though.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest3 on November 17, 2020, 06:17:12 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
A 2% movement between one YouGov poll and another is neither good nor bad.

Question for you, and I’m sure you’ll answer without dodging.

Is 15 Yes polls in a row good news or bad news for unionists?
Pete, I honestly don't pay much attention to polls these days. They've been wrong on so many big elections/referendums that they're not worth getting excited about.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest19 on November 17, 2020, 06:09:14 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
A 2% movement between one YouGov poll and another is neither good nor bad.

Question for you, and I’m sure you’ll answer without dodging.

Is 1514 Yes polls in a row good news or bad news for unionists?

Good news IMO.

The polls were generous to the Nats pre-referendum, and if that's the same now then this suggests that the Unionists are in the lead, at a time when the Unionists' optics and conditions are the worst they ever could be.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: PeterGrant on November 17, 2020, 05:53:55 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
A 2% movement between one YouGov poll and another is neither good nor bad.

Question for you, and I’m sure you’ll answer without dodging.

Is 15 Yes polls in a row good news or bad news for unionists?
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest3 on November 17, 2020, 05:32:27 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
So is the fall in the lead good news or bad news for the SNP?
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: PeterGrant on November 17, 2020, 04:56:16 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
It was only a dip of 2% from the previous YouGov poll and that’s how you measure polling trends. That and things like 15 in a row. You must also allow for a 3 point margin of error with all polls.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest17 on November 17, 2020, 04:41:29 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?

BoJo still says NoNo.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest3 on November 17, 2020, 04:40:39 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
I genuinely didn't know if you'd covered it or not. Bit of a dip from the 58% from a few weeks ago, eh?
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: PeterGrant on November 17, 2020, 04:36:42 pm
I think I did cover that poll. Was it the same one that also had Nicola Sturgeon over 100 points ahead of Boris in approval ratings?
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest19 on November 17, 2020, 04:20:10 pm
The opinion polls were always very generous to them prior to the 2014 referendum and there's nothing to suggest that has changed.

This poll shows that far from separation being the settled will of Scots, the Union is actually safe.
Title: Re: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: Cooheid on November 17, 2020, 04:16:22 pm
Fake news.
Title: The latest YouGov poll...
Post by: guest3 on November 17, 2020, 04:06:52 pm
...on Scottish independence. I don't know if you've already posted this, Pete. It's five days old.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/11/12/scottish-independence-yes-51-49-no