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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sir Brenty on October 25, 2020, 05:48:37 pm
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Totally agree about JTC. Thoughtful stuff.
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
Depends how you look at it mate.
I'd say people living within their means, a return to families looking after each other, people planning ahead in case of the worst happening, less blowing of disposable income and a culture of responsibility rather than dependency would stop the need for as many handouts or charities.
I don't think it's the government's responsibility to make people have comfortable lives, but they should indeed provide a safeguard to those who are in the very worst of situations until they can get back on their feet. They can provide the levers for people to better their lives, but throwing money at people just creates laziness that other people pay for and which often doesn't solve anything, just creating further problems instead.
I'd say foodbanks are largely a failure of people to run their lives properly rather than anything to do with the government, especially when they already give folk money through benefits. There will, of course, be exceptions to this.
My aunty/uncle had 7 children and the two of them worked their fingers to the bone and sold possessions to get them presents at Christmas and the likes. I doubt they blamed the government for their skintness. Of course, once the weans grew up and moved out they lead stressfree lives with appreciative children who look after them well into their old age. Short term pain for long term gain. I'm not saying the government can't help people, but we've gone too far with everyone looking to the government for everything in my opinion. You don't get anything easy in life.
I'm not even saying the taxpayer-funded school meals shouldn't happen, but there needs to be a sensible discussion rather than everyone reverting to the default of just calling the Tories evil and heartless ;D
You are not far wrong there at all mate.Families ,being careful with what money You have .living within your means are good protestant values.Id go as far to say Catholics or the ones i know in England share the same values.In fact a lot of faiths do.
As someone who's marriage aint great with 3 young kids i do not want to sound a hypocrite .Im gutted with Regards to the situation but I will be there for my kids and fight to get fair access rights.
In my view the Government should provide the playing field for people to prosper.That means the the climate is right for work.If a man works He should recieve help if the wages are not livable.Better still the Government should make companies pay decent wages.Even at the detrement of theirselves regarding collecting less tax off companies who are going to be paying less if they pay out more.Its stil a win Win for the Government as they will get less tax but because wages are higher the tax credits will be lower and the need to employ people on loaded pensions to basically send tax back in the form of tax credits will be less.
i dont sit and churf over people who dont work but its plain wrong if they are capable of doing so.why should I or You pay for someone to sit on his cracker and watch TV?Genuine unemployed with good work records could recieve more for a short time to soften the blow if we were not doing money in on dossers.The problem with turning a blind eye to the workshy is one day they may reach a figure where they eat up the tax revenue collected.then we will have a real problem.Also it sets bad examples to kids
if kids are struggling to get fed properly it maybe because the parents have fell on hard times but it may also be because they like gambling,smoking,bevvy or drugs.
I actually like young Rashford.a lad driven by his own childhood problems and a lad with a accent that represents the area he is from.Not a thing to gain for Him financially here.i will say though the money these chaps are on can leave a sour taste in a struggling working mans mouth .Especially when they are the ones who will be paying for it through their taxes.Dave from Amazon cant squirrel his wages way in image rights can He?
iv watched with interest since the lockdown at football clubs.The shambles the Republic of Scouselands Red team problems over furloughing their staff when they made 33m profit last year.Surely a team of well paid superstars could just find out how much the wage bill is for non footballing staff and put a fraction of their wages to good use?.Ozil at Arsenal decided to pay the wages of the laid off mascot which is all very nice and fair play to him but what about the hordes of other staff who got laid off?imagine the feel good factor around a club where the players are paying the wages of the non football staff!.
Harry Kane has effectively sponsered Orient because He was loaned to them.He hasnt forgot His time there when all He wanted was to play first team football.
Another fine, thought provoking post, JTC. You bring a new dimension to the board mate.
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
Depends how you look at it mate.
I'd say people living within their means, a return to families looking after each other, people planning ahead in case of the worst happening, less blowing of disposable income and a culture of responsibility rather than dependency would stop the need for as many handouts or charities.
I don't think it's the government's responsibility to make people have comfortable lives, but they should indeed provide a safeguard to those who are in the very worst of situations until they can get back on their feet. They can provide the levers for people to better their lives, but throwing money at people just creates laziness that other people pay for and which often doesn't solve anything, just creating further problems instead.
I'd say foodbanks are largely a failure of people to run their lives properly rather than anything to do with the government, especially when they already give folk money through benefits. There will, of course, be exceptions to this.
My aunty/uncle had 7 children and the two of them worked their fingers to the bone and sold possessions to get them presents at Christmas and the likes. I doubt they blamed the government for their skintness. Of course, once the weans grew up and moved out they lead stressfree lives with appreciative children who look after them well into their old age. Short term pain for long term gain. I'm not saying the government can't help people, but we've gone too far with everyone looking to the government for everything in my opinion. You don't get anything easy in life.
I'm not even saying the taxpayer-funded school meals shouldn't happen, but there needs to be a sensible discussion rather than everyone reverting to the default of just calling the Tories evil and heartless ;D
You are not far wrong there at all mate.Families ,being careful with what money You have .living within your means are good protestant values.Id go as far to say Catholics or the ones i know in England share the same values.In fact a lot of faiths do.
As someone who's marriage aint great with 3 young kids i do not want to sound a hypocrite .Im gutted with Regards to the situation but I will be there for my kids and fight to get fair access rights.
In my view the Government should provide the playing field for people to prosper.That means the the climate is right for work.If a man works He should recieve help if the wages are not livable.Better still the Government should make companies pay decent wages.Even at the detrement of theirselves regarding collecting less tax off companies who are going to be paying less if they pay out more.Its stil a win Win for the Government as they will get less tax but because wages are higher the tax credits will be lower and the need to employ people on loaded pensions to basically send tax back in the form of tax credits will be less.
i dont sit and churf over people who dont work but its plain wrong if they are capable of doing so.why should I or You pay for someone to sit on his cracker and watch TV?Genuine unemployed with good work records could recieve more for a short time to soften the blow if we were not doing money in on dossers.The problem with turning a blind eye to the workshy is one day they may reach a figure where they eat up the tax revenue collected.then we will have a real problem.Also it sets bad examples to kids
if kids are struggling to get fed properly it maybe because the parents have fell on hard times but it may also be because they like gambling,smoking,bevvy or drugs.
I actually like young Rashford.a lad driven by his own childhood problems and a lad with a accent that represents the area he is from.Not a thing to gain for Him financially here.i will say though the money these chaps are on can leave a sour taste in a struggling working mans mouth .Especially when they are the ones who will be paying for it through their taxes.Dave from Amazon cant squirrel his wages way in image rights can He?
iv watched with interest since the lockdown at football clubs.The shambles the Republic of Scouselands Red team problems over furloughing their staff when they made 33m profit last year.Surely a team of well paid superstars could just find out how much the wage bill is for non footballing staff and put a fraction of their wages to good use?.Ozil at Arsenal decided to pay the wages of the laid off mascot which is all very nice and fair play to him but what about the hordes of other staff who got laid off?imagine the feel good factor around a club where the players are paying the wages of the non football staff!.
Harry Kane has effectively sponsered Orient because He was loaned to them.He hasnt forgot His time there when all He wanted was to play first team football.
F*ck reading awe that pish.
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
Yoons are always deriding comparisons with Norway. But then, when it’s convenient, let’s compare ourselves to Norway. 😆
I just asked a question.
Why are you triggered about it?
Not sure. You just really upset me there. 😢
Toughen up.
That’s a microaggression and I am now sad again. 😢
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
Yoons are always deriding comparisons with Norway. But then, when it’s convenient, let’s compare ourselves to Norway. 😆
I just asked a question.
Why are you triggered about it?
Not sure. You just really upset me there. 😢
Toughen up.
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
Depends how you look at it mate.
I'd say people living within their means, a return to families looking after each other, people planning ahead in case of the worst happening, less blowing of disposable income and a culture of responsibility rather than dependency would stop the need for as many handouts or charities.
I don't think it's the government's responsibility to make people have comfortable lives, but they should indeed provide a safeguard to those who are in the very worst of situations until they can get back on their feet. They can provide the levers for people to better their lives, but throwing money at people just creates laziness that other people pay for and which often doesn't solve anything, just creating further problems instead.
I'd say foodbanks are largely a failure of people to run their lives properly rather than anything to do with the government, especially when they already give folk money through benefits. There will, of course, be exceptions to this.
My aunty/uncle had 7 children and the two of them worked their fingers to the bone and sold possessions to get them presents at Christmas and the likes. I doubt they blamed the government for their skintness. Of course, once the weans grew up and moved out they lead stressfree lives with appreciative children who look after them well into their old age. Short term pain for long term gain. I'm not saying the government can't help people, but we've gone too far with everyone looking to the government for everything in my opinion. You don't get anything easy in life.
I'm not even saying the taxpayer-funded school meals shouldn't happen, but there needs to be a sensible discussion rather than everyone reverting to the default of just calling the Tories evil and heartless ;D
You are not far wrong there at all mate.Families ,being careful with what money You have .living within your means are good protestant values.Id go as far to say Catholics or the ones i know in England share the same values.In fact a lot of faiths do.
As someone who's marriage aint great with 3 young kids i do not want to sound a hypocrite .Im gutted with Regards to the situation but I will be there for my kids and fight to get fair access rights.
In my view the Government should provide the playing field for people to prosper.That means the the climate is right for work.If a man works He should recieve help if the wages are not livable.Better still the Government should make companies pay decent wages.Even at the detrement of theirselves regarding collecting less tax off companies who are going to be paying less if they pay out more.Its stil a win Win for the Government as they will get less tax but because wages are higher the tax credits will be lower and the need to employ people on loaded pensions to basically send tax back in the form of tax credits will be less.
i dont sit and churf over people who dont work but its plain wrong if they are capable of doing so.why should I or You pay for someone to sit on his cracker and watch TV?Genuine unemployed with good work records could recieve more for a short time to soften the blow if we were not doing money in on dossers.The problem with turning a blind eye to the workshy is one day they may reach a figure where they eat up the tax revenue collected.then we will have a real problem.Also it sets bad examples to kids
if kids are struggling to get fed properly it maybe because the parents have fell on hard times but it may also be because they like gambling,smoking,bevvy or drugs.
I actually like young Rashford.a lad driven by his own childhood problems and a lad with a accent that represents the area he is from.Not a thing to gain for Him financially here.i will say though the money these chaps are on can leave a sour taste in a struggling working mans mouth .Especially when they are the ones who will be paying for it through their taxes.Dave from Amazon cant squirrel his wages way in image rights can He?
iv watched with interest since the lockdown at football clubs.The shambles the Republic of Scouselands Red team problems over furloughing their staff when they made 33m profit last year.Surely a team of well paid superstars could just find out how much the wage bill is for non footballing staff and put a fraction of their wages to good use?.Ozil at Arsenal decided to pay the wages of the laid off mascot which is all very nice and fair play to him but what about the hordes of other staff who got laid off?imagine the feel good factor around a club where the players are paying the wages of the non football staff!.
Harry Kane has effectively sponsered Orient because He was loaned to them.He hasnt forgot His time there when all He wanted was to play first team football.
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
Yoons are always deriding comparisons with Norway. But then, when it’s convenient, let’s compare ourselves to Norway. 😆
I just asked a question.
Why are you triggered about it?
Not sure. You just really upset me there. 😢
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
Yoons are always deriding comparisons with Norway. But then, when it’s convenient, let’s compare ourselves to Norway. 😆
I just asked a question.
Why are you triggered about it?
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
Yoons are always deriding comparisons with Norway. But then, when it’s convenient, let’s compare ourselves to Norway. 😆
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
Really?
You’d better tell the daft plumber then.
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
Yes, but we are not supposed to compare ourselves with Norway.
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
Depends how you look at it mate.
I'd say people living within their means, a return to families looking after each other, people planning ahead in case of the worst happening, less blowing of disposable income and a culture of responsibility rather than dependency would stop the need for as many handouts or charities.
I don't think it's the government's responsibility to make people have comfortable lives, but they should indeed provide a safeguard to those who are in the very worst of situations until they can get back on their feet. They can provide the levers for people to better their lives, but throwing money at people just creates laziness that other people pay for and which often doesn't solve anything, just creating further problems instead.
I'd say foodbanks are largely a failure of people to run their lives properly rather than anything to do with the government, especially when they already give folk money through benefits. There will, of course, be exceptions to this.
My aunty/uncle had 7 children and the two of them worked their fingers to the bone and sold possessions to get them presents at Christmas and the likes. I doubt they blamed the government for their skintness. Of course, once the weans grew up and moved out they lead stressfree lives with appreciative children who look after them well into their old age. Short term pain for long term gain. I'm not saying the government can't help people, but we've gone too far with everyone looking to the government for everything in my opinion. You don't get anything easy in life.
I'm not even saying the taxpayer-funded school meals shouldn't happen, but there needs to be a sensible discussion rather than everyone reverting to the default of just calling the Tories evil and heartless ;D
Good post brother 🇬🇧
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
Any food banks in Norway?
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Other countries have much better standards of living than the UK, and they have an absence of charities and foodbanks.
Policies create a need for charities and foodbanks. Both now are industries of their own, doing the work that government is supposed to avoid the need for.
If our government isn’t required to avert poverty and create conditions for better lives then it’s hard to see what the point of them is.
I don’t care if some people are lazy and/or feckless. That’s human nature. There will always be some lazy people and the idea of a small amount of people getting away with it doesn’t bother me one bit. It’s a tiny price to pay for a safe, fair, just and cohesive society.
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
Depends how you look at it mate.
I'd say people living within their means, a return to families looking after each other, people planning ahead in case of the worst happening, less blowing of disposable income and a culture of responsibility rather than dependency would stop the need for as many handouts or charities.
I don't think it's the government's responsibility to make people have comfortable lives, but they should indeed provide a safeguard to those who are in the very worst of situations until they can get back on their feet. They can provide the levers for people to better their lives, but throwing money at people just creates laziness that other people pay for and which often doesn't solve anything, just creating further problems instead.
I'd say foodbanks are largely a failure of people to run their lives properly rather than anything to do with the government, especially when they already give folk money through benefits. There will, of course, be exceptions to this.
My aunty/uncle had 7 children and the two of them worked their fingers to the bone and sold possessions to get them presents at Christmas and the likes. I doubt they blamed the government for their skintness. Of course, once the weans grew up and moved out they lead stressfree lives with appreciative children who look after them well into their old age. Short term pain for long term gain. I'm not saying the government can't help people, but we've gone too far with everyone looking to the government for everything in my opinion. You don't get anything easy in life.
I'm not even saying the taxpayer-funded school meals shouldn't happen, but there needs to be a sensible discussion rather than everyone reverting to the default of just calling the Tories evil and heartless ;D
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It is always the right thing to force more from the government. That’s what they are there for. Charities and foodbanks are a failure of government.
Far too often the government gets let off the hook. Help for Heroes and the Earl Haig fund are prime examples. They exist as businesses for the purpose of keeping themselves going and never criticise or lobby government for their failure to provide for veterans and their families.
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https://i.imgur.com/dvqXJC5.jpg
Entitled Marcus should really stump up the cash himself. At the moment he's trying to force more from the government, plunging the Nation into more debt at a time when they're shelling out for everyone anyway. The taxpayer ultimately will have to pay his vanity project off via their taxes. It's not 'free'.
I'm not against the idea of extending the scheme to the poorer kids, but a rich footballer telling a skint government what to do, whilst not contributing himself just doesn't sit well with me.
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https://i.imgur.com/dvqXJC5.jpg
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Coyne pretends he cares about hungry children, but I bet he wouldn't care about benefits for the disabled.
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That's you fantasising about benefit cuts to the disabled.
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Coyne pretends he cares about hungry children, but I bet he wouldn't care about benefits for the disabled.
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That's you fantasising about benefit cuts to the disabled.
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Not a topic the Yoons like at all. Makes them very uncomfortable.
Not all PG.I get the impression you think all 'Yoons ' are Tories?.Whilst i have no desire to vote Labour till they sort themselves out that is the background Im from .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Labour
this may or may not interest You.
Too many times the labour party ignored the working class over immigration and being patriotic.thats why the tories get in .The labour shambles over Brexit had Yorkshire Miners even voting Tory or BP as a kick in the charlie Hollox to the party that lied to them about doing Brexit then blocking it.
Dont make the mistake of thinking all English (in particular) are Tories unless they are card carrying Corbynistas .A lot of us love our country,yes thats the UK not just England and want a party to vote for who will allow us to express that love without the sneering academia calling us racists.
And to think we paid for and championed some of these working class kids who went to Uni in the 80s who now think we are something they have scrapped off their shoes!
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Coyne pretends he cares about hungry children, but I bet he wouldn't care about benefits for the disabled.
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Coyne pretends he cares about hungry children, but I bet he wouldn't care about benefits for the disabled.
Do what I do and put him on your ignore list.
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Coyne pretends he cares about hungry children, but I bet he wouldn't care about benefits for the disabled.
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Noah seems edgy
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Not a topic the Yoons like at all. Makes them very uncomfortable.
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Amongst the debris of covid i feel it would be small change to fund this .
I do feel on the other hand that the welfare state is crazy at times with rewarding people who dont do a fat lot.
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Maybe we should start a campaign for Marcus Rashford to fund the school meals? He certainly has the cash.
I mean, if he doesn't then he must be cold hearted and want children to starve surely.
Tut tut .
😂😂😂
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Maybe we should start a campaign for Marcus Rashford to fund the school meals? He certainly has the cash.
Yep, let’s take the burden away from the parents.
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Maybe we should start a campaign for Marcus Rashford to fund the school meals? He certainly has the cash.
I mean, if he doesn't then he must be cold hearted and want children to starve surely.
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Douglas Ross isn’t playing with a full deck
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I'm in two minds about it to be honest and don't know the full facts.
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Yoons very quiet on this.
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Think they voted against it as did douglas ross after saying how important it was to feed Scotland's kids as his mother was a dinner lady and knew the benefits of feeding the poor kids.
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Hunger, cruelty and ice-cold hearts.
Very well put.