EthicalScottishFitba
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: guest19 on October 14, 2020, 09:51:04 am
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them. Yes it does.
They are a minority in Scotland. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent. False. We have a Conservative and Unionist majority.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour. Hardly anything of note has been said to be able to tell this.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour. Wouldn't expect them to.
A majority favour independence. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
A majority favour another referendum. Not any time soon, and they won't get one anyway.
A majority believe it will happen. Doesn't matter.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon. This will be irrelevant soon. She is 'toast'.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
That post takes me back to watching Zorro on a Saturday morning. Pete hasn't just felt the tip of your sword there, it's positively shredded him.
He has previous for liking feeling the tip.
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them. Yes it does.
They are a minority in Scotland. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent. False. We have a Conservative and Unionist majority.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour. Hardly anything of note has been said to be able to tell this.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour. Wouldn't expect them to.
A majority favour independence. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
A majority favour another referendum. Not any time soon, and they won't get one anyway.
A majority believe it will happen. Doesn't matter.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon. This will be irrelevant soon. She is 'toast'.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
OYF
Cannae see daft Pete recovering from this.
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them. Yes it does.
They are a minority in Scotland. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent. False. We have a Conservative and Unionist majority.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour. Hardly anything of note has been said to be able to tell this.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour. Wouldn't expect them to.
A majority favour independence. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
A majority favour another referendum. Not any time soon, and they won't get one anyway.
A majority believe it will happen. Doesn't matter.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon. This will be irrelevant soon. She is 'toast'.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
That post takes me back to watching Zorro on a Saturday morning. Pete hasn't just felt the tip of your sword there, it's positively shredded him.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GlossyEminentGoitered-size_restricted.gif)
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them. Yes it does.
They are a minority in Scotland. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent. False. We have a Conservative and Unionist majority.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour. Hardly anything of note has been said to be able to tell this.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour. Wouldn't expect them to.
A majority favour independence. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
A majority favour another referendum. Not any time soon, and they won't get one anyway.
A majority believe it will happen. Doesn't matter.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon. This will be irrelevant soon. She is 'toast'.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
That post takes me back to watching Zorro on a Saturday morning. Pete hasn't just felt the tip of your sword there, it's positively shredded him.
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them. Yes it does.
They are a minority in Scotland. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent. False. We have a Conservative and Unionist majority.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour. Hardly anything of note has been said to be able to tell this.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour. Wouldn't expect them to.
A majority favour independence. No evidence of this other than spoofing opinion polls.
A majority favour another referendum. Not any time soon, and they won't get one anyway.
A majority believe it will happen. Doesn't matter.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon. This will be irrelevant soon. She is 'toast'.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs. Link? Anyway, doesn't matter.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
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Wee mo’s finest moment.
https://twitter.com/scotiaindyref2/status/1272853057848725506?s=21
That's not good I'm glad I have self respect.
Says the man that would give his life for independence
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Wee mo’s finest moment.
https://twitter.com/scotiaindyref2/status/1272853057848725506?s=21
That's not good I'm glad I have self respect.
Of course you do....
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Wee mo’s finest moment.
https://twitter.com/scotiaindyref2/status/1272853057848725506?s=21
That's not good I'm glad I have self respect.
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You have got to love Boris. He will keep telling the nats no to a referendum. You had one so shut up about it and sort Scotland out.
No answer to my questions I see 🤔
He has to say no and for good reason .
But his words I hear are now is not the time.
He also quotes wee nippy and sleepy cuddles as saying ‘once in a generation, once in a lifetime opportunity’.
Boris means it.
The seps know it.
They are desperate.
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You have got to love Boris. He will keep telling the nats no to a referendum. You had one so shut up about it and sort Scotland out.
No answer to my questions I see 🤔
He has to say no and for good reason .
But his words I hear are now is not the time.
The good reason is you had one in 2014. A generation has not passed.
And his word is "no"
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Wee mo’s finest moment.
https://twitter.com/scotiaindyref2/status/1272853057848725506?s=21
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You have got to love Boris. He will keep telling the nats no to a referendum. You had one so shut up about it and sort Scotland out.
No answer to my questions I see 🤔
He has to say no and for good reason .
But his words I hear are now is not the time.
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them.
They are a minority in Scotland.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour.
A majority favour independence.
A majority favour another referendum.
A majority believe it will happen.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs.
I could continue with the is list but I’ve probably made my point.
Boris says no.
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It’s good that so many unionists aren’t facing the reality of their plight.
England doesn’t care about them.
They are a minority in Scotland.
Their electoral prospects are non-existent.
Nothing they do or say shifts the polls in their favour.
Scandals at the top of the SNP don’t shift the polls in their favour.
A majority favour independence.
A majority favour another referendum.
A majority believe it will happen.
A majority believe that withholding a section 30 order is wrong.
A majority trust Nicola Sturgeon.
A majority believe Holyrood should make decisions on the economy and foreign affairs.
I could continue with this list but I’ve probably made my point.
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They are all commissioned by Nhationalists, with loaded questions, huge undecided numbers at a time when people are making knee-jerk emotional-driven decisions and the movement's leader is on the telly constantly bigging herself up. As well as this, fundamental issues such as currency, defence and EU membership aren't being discussed.
Not to mention the fact that the polls always showed far more favourably in the run up to the referendum in 2014 than the actual result was.
As well as this, any PM allowing a 2nd indyref would be going against the St Andrews agreement.
The Union is not for sale!
Ain’t that the truth.
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You have got to love Boris. He will keep telling the nats no to a referendum. You had one so shut up about it and sort Scotland out.
No answer to my questions I see 🤔
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They are all commissioned by Nhationalists, with loaded questions, huge undecided numbers at a time when people are making knee-jerk emotional-driven decisions and the movement's leader is on the telly constantly bigging herself up. As well as this, fundamental issues such as currency, defence and EU membership aren't being discussed.
Not to mention the fact that the polls always showed far more favourably in the run up to the referendum in 2014 than the actual result was.
As well as this, any PM allowing a 2nd indyref would be going against the St Andrews agreement.
The Union is not for sale!
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
Not by the National, no.
Yes it is.
QUOTE PROBLEMS THICKSTUFF? 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Easy.
Caps lock problems thickstuff?
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
Not by the National, no.
Yes it is.
QUOTE PROBLEMS THICKSTUFF? 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
Not by the National, no.
Yes it is.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
No by a number of polls.
By the National and Agnes Robertson’s polling company.
That’s not correct. Survation, Panelbase, IPSOS-Mori and YouGov are not owned by these people.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
Not by the National, no.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
Only since May I'm afraid, which coincides with a lot of factors in which you'd expect the polls to shoot up for separation.
The polling support is built on the sand :)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence%23:~:text%3DPolls%2520in%2520the%2520run%252Dup,an%2520overall%2520turnout%2520of%252084.6%2525.&ved=2ahUKEwiSp-Hm_7PsAhWSoFwKHQL9AL0QFjABegQIARAE&usg=AOvVaw2_oqZYzzVV45uMb2me5CUu
Says Boris will continue to say no.
Thanks for the confirmation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
Only since May I'm afraid, which coincides with a lot of factors in which you'd expect the polls to shoot up for separation.
The polling support is built on the sand :)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_Scottish_independence%23:~:text%3DPolls%2520in%2520the%2520run%252Dup,an%2520overall%2520turnout%2520of%252084.6%2525.&ved=2ahUKEwiSp-Hm_7PsAhWSoFwKHQL9AL0QFjABegQIARAE&usg=AOvVaw2_oqZYzzVV45uMb2me5CUu
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
Only since May I'm afraid, which coincides with a lot of factors in which you'd expect the polls to shoot up for separation.
The polling support is built on the sand :)
Boris will continue to say no.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
Only since May I'm afraid, which coincides with a lot of factors in which you'd expect the polls to shoot up for separation.
The polling support is built on the sand :)
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
No by a number of polls.
By the National and Agnes Robertson’s polling company.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
No by a number of polls.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
By the National.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
It’s about 10 polls in a row going back almost a year. 😀
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
We voted No Thanks.
Once in a generation, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Boris will continue to say no.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
I can understand why 64% think it'll happen given the narrative promoted by the MSM who are apparently all Yoons.
I do not believe that the majority view is now established as Yes.
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The majority view is now established as Yes to independence. And even larger majority believe it will happen, 64%.
A changing of the guard atop the SNP will be DEFCOM 1 for the yoonothies.
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Independence isn't going to go away there's now a hunger for it .
Independence isn't if it's when .
I think Nicola is waiting for the right time then strike that will be early next year I would guess.
Boris said no.
Wee nippy will be gone by next year.
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Being in the Union has definitely saved us from bankruptcy during this pandemic 🇬🇧
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
It’s been since 1989 when we did a small amount of Scottish history at school. We learned about Bannockburn and how Scotland won its fight for independence, and this was presented as a great thing.
Then I asked the teacher why we weren’t independent any more then (totally naive) end she got very flustered, defensive and dodged the question.
So I began then to examine the issue and I remain convinced to this day that it would be what is best for us all.
She should have answered:
'Because our leaders joined up with England who saved us from bankruptcy after we attempted and failed to start a colony in Panama based on slavery.'
That would have been misinformation though.
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Independence isn't going to go away there's now a hunger for it .
Independence isn't if it's when .
I think Nicola is waiting for the right time then strike that will be early next year I would guess.
That is quite funny Buc 🙂
We will see.
Can you not see what the independence movement is doing to our country and its people ?
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
It’s been since 1989 when we did a small amount of Scottish history at school. We learned about Bannockburn and how Scotland won its fight for independence, and this was presented as a great thing.
Then I asked the teacher why we weren’t independent any more then (totally naive) end she got very flustered, defensive and dodged the question.
So I began then to examine the issue and I remain convinced to this day that it would be what is best for us all.
Seriously why do you think it is the best for us all ?
Both financially and how people feel
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Independence isn't going to go away there's now a hunger for it .
Independence isn't if it's when .
I think Nicola is waiting for the right time then strike that will be early next year I would guess.
That is quite funny Buc 🙂
We will see.
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Independence isn't going to go away there's now a hunger for it .
Independence isn't if it's when .
I think Nicola is waiting for the right time then strike that will be early next year I would guess.
That is quite funny Buc 🙂
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious indeed about delivering independence.
You should be a yoon
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
It’s been since 1989 when we did a small amount of Scottish history at school. We learned about Bannockburn and how Scotland won its fight for independence, and this was presented as a great thing.
Then I asked the teacher why we weren’t independent any more then (totally naive) end she got very flustered, defensive and dodged the question.
So I began then to examine the issue and I remain convinced to this day that it would be what is best for us all.
She should have answered:
'Because our leaders joined up with England who saved us from bankruptcy after we attempted and failed to start a colony in Panama based on slavery.'
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History is fascinating IMO. I love seeing old photos of places and hearing about old ways of life. There's something special about standing in a spot and thinking about what went on there hundreds of years ago... even something as simple as an old farm that's been there a long time.
Maybe isn't everyone's cup of tea but it appeals to me anyway ;D
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
It’s been since 1989 when we did a small amount of Scottish history at school. We learned about Bannockburn and how Scotland won its fight for independence, and this was presented as a great thing.
Then I asked the teacher why we weren’t independent any more then (totally naive) end she got very flustered, defensive and dodged the question.
So I began then to examine the issue and I remain convinced to this day that it would be what is best for us all.
During the 60s and 70s I got told little of Scottish history it was more about English history and the Romans .
I left St Peter's school with next to no knowledge of Scottish history that was embarrassing for me .
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
It’s been since 1989 when we did a small amount of Scottish history at school. We learned about Bannockburn and how Scotland won its fight for independence, and this was presented as a great thing.
Then I asked the teacher why we weren’t independent any more then (totally naive) end she got very flustered, defensive and dodged the question.
So I began then to examine the issue and I remain convinced to this day that it would be what is best for us all.
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Independence isn't going to go away there's now a hunger for it .
Independence isn't if it's when .
I think Nicola is waiting for the right time then strike that will be early next year I would guess.
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious sneed about delivering independence.
I'm caught in two minds as to the best outcome for the Unionist cause.
Sturgeon appears to be a good safety valve for us as she isn't chasing independence properly, but it's her pragmatism and appeal to a whole range of voters that gets her the popularity. It's hard to see how any new leader could keep happy and appeal to old school nationalists, left wingers and the wokerati like she has done.
Hopefully you become a Yoon soon though. This phase in your life has gone on long enough surely?
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It is essential that she and her husband exit and soon.
If I was a Yoon though, I’d want them firmly in place as their replacements will be very serious indeed about delivering independence.
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It's hard to disagree with Father Stu's take on the situation.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-dimwit-of-doom/#more-119322