EthicalScottishFitba
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: guest17 on September 14, 2020, 06:06:34 am
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
What a nasty person you are .
Try and post in a nice manner please it's really not that difficult.
If you are trying to wind me up that won't happen .
Here Buc, just ignore him as I do.
That annoys him even more.
Just another oddball
Indeed thank you for that advice mate .
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Looks like there won't be an economic united Ihreland after all.
I'd never go as far as to say that I trust Boris, but I think he's going to do well here.
Let's face it though, nothing with satisfy your average rhabid Scottish Nhationalist's hunger for ghrievance.
The nats along with other things are the most grief ridden bunch of arseholes out there.
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Peter's took a helluva beating here.
Again 🙂🇬🇧
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Peter's took a helluva beating here.
I thought he would’ve taken extra care after last weeks embarrassment.
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Peter's took a helluva beating here.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
Did it say it had to be delivered by the Smith Commission though? The Nats like to make The Vow grow arms and legs so they can claim it wasn't fulfilled, as they chuckle away, thinking they've helped their cause, then in reality many can see through their games and end up with their views more entrenched.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indyref-vow-delivered-westminster-completes-13968479
Yes. The Smith Commission was the unionist vehicle for delivering the vow. According to the unionists.
The part that said the Scottish Parliament's permanence must be delivered via the Smith Commission must have been in the small print, with the text the same colour as the background, and on the other side. It certainly isn't in The Vow that I'm looking at.
(https://i.ibb.co/tY5cb81/94-BCBA09-88-A8-46-D4-ABF9-4-C69-E6-E3-AD36.png) (https://ibb.co/p4pZ3Jk)
The Wiki page does indeed say that the Smith Commission was part of the process of fulfilling The Vow. Of course it was, how could power be transferred without a commission of sorts?
That still doesn't equate to every part of The Vow having to be confirmed by the Smith Commission to be fulfilled though.
There's still nothing to show that the promise of the Scottish Parliament's permanence had to be confirmed by the Smith Commission. This is just more manufactured grudge and grievance I'm afraid.
The Vow - signed, sealed and delivered.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
Did it say it had to be delivered by the Smith Commission though? The Nats like to make The Vow grow arms and legs so they can claim it wasn't fulfilled, as they chuckle away, thinking they've helped their cause, then in reality many can see through their games and end up with their views more entrenched.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indyref-vow-delivered-westminster-completes-13968479
Yes. The Smith Commission was the unionist vehicle for delivering the vow. According to the unionists.
The part that said the Scottish Parliament's permanence must be delivered via the Smith Commission must have been in the small print, with the text the same colour as the background, and on the other side. It certainly isn't in The Vow that I'm looking at.
(https://i.ibb.co/tY5cb81/94-BCBA09-88-A8-46-D4-ABF9-4-C69-E6-E3-AD36.png) (https://ibb.co/p4pZ3Jk)
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
What a nasty person you are .
Try and post in a nice manner please it's really not that difficult.
If you are trying to wind me up that won't happen .
Here Buc, just ignore him as I do.
That annoys him even more.
Just another oddball
Ergo - he always makes an arse of me.
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
What a nasty person you are .
Try and post in a nice manner please it's really not that difficult.
If you are trying to wind me up that won't happen .
Here Buc, just ignore him as I do.
That annoys him even more.
Just another oddball
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
What a nasty person you are .
Try and post in a nice manner please it's really not that difficult.
If you are trying to wind me up that won't happen .
Nasty😂
What a snowflake.
You really are clueless on politics.
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
What a nasty person you are .
Try and post in a nice manner please it's really not that difficult.
If you are trying to wind me up that won't happen .
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
Did it say it had to be delivered by the Smith Commission though? The Nats like to make The Vow grow arms and legs so they can claim it wasn't fulfilled, as they chuckle away, thinking they've helped their cause, then in reality many can see through their games and end up with their views more entrenched.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indyref-vow-delivered-westminster-completes-13968479
Yes. The Smith Commission was the unionist vehicle for delivering the vow. According to the unionists.
The part that said the Scottish Parliament's permanence must be delivered via the Smith Commission must have been in the small print, with the text the same colour as the background, and on the other side. It certainly isn't in The Vow that I'm looking at.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
Did it say it had to be delivered by the Smith Commission though? The Nats like to make The Vow grow arms and legs so they can claim it wasn't fulfilled, as they chuckle away, thinking they've helped their cause, then in reality many can see through their games and end up with their views more entrenched.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indyref-vow-delivered-westminster-completes-13968479
Yes. The Smith Commission was the unionist vehicle for delivering the vow. According to the unionists.
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Looks like there won't be an economic united Ihreland after all.
I'd never go as far as to say that I trust Boris, but I think he's going to do well here.
Let's face it though, nothing with satisfy your average rhabid Scottish Nhationalist's hunger for ghrievance.
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
You are clueless on politics.
Do us all a favour and stay off the subject.
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See what happens in 2 weeks with this Brexit carry on with Ireland and Scotland after the illegal no deal .
Europe would be quite within their rights to close of their borders to the uk .
Ouch .
Scotland will hopefully have 2 or 3 options before our powers are taken away.
I know which i would like .
The Scottish government aren't stupid they will have cards ready to go on the table whatever happens .
But note the London government hasn't told us what their plan is before they take us out of Europe they are keeping Scotland in the dark and the rest of the nation's .
I wish they'd close that Westmonster government and the house of lords it would save us so much money we don't need it .
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As was said the vow was completed as promised.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
Did it say it had to be delivered by the Smith Commission though? The Nats like to make The Vow grow arms and legs so they can claim it wasn't fulfilled, as they chuckle away, thinking they've helped their cause, then in reality many can see through their games and end up with their views more entrenched.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/indyref-vow-delivered-westminster-completes-13968479
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Was there a date on the original post?
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
The Vow was to be delivered via the Smith Commission. That’s what the parties all agreed to and the promises made in the Vow were not delivered, and EVEL came into being. The Brexit, the Boris, and everything else.
Unionists in Scotland chuckled away at all of this, rather than trying to protect the integrity of the Union they fought so hard for.
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NHS .
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-privatisation-sale-boris-johnson-conservatives-general-election-a9241881.html&ved=2ahUKEwiUus_bj-nrAhXUasAKHVFADEkQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2XsTE-Tdf_7JO4JM19cdOi
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
The parties agreed that the Scottish Parliament is permanent though, which is what The Vow said.
There's nothing on that image which wasn't fulfilled.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
Is the pretendy parliament still there ?
Aye they can shut the Scottish parliament down and they can sell the NHS and there's nothing we can do about it in Scotland.
I wish they would shut down Holyrood, think of the money we would save.
And the NHS is not getting sold
Me too. Two sets of politicians being paid with one set being in an utter monstrosity of a building that cost the taxpayer a great deal of money in the first place. 10 times over budget. Think of the foodbanks.
The claim that the NHS is always just about to be sold off or privatised is of course, a complete myth.
99% of the media are Unionist? Pfft.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
Is the pretendy parliament still there ?
Aye they can shut the Scottish parliament down and they can sell the NHS and there's nothing we can do about it in Scotland.
I wish they would shut down Holyrood, think of the money we would save.
And the NHS is not getting sold
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Yoons are their own undoing. They should just have kept their promises and been respectful like they said they would. There would be much reduced appetite for independence.
But it’s not in them. They cannot resist putting the boot in and damaging their own cause in the process.
The rise in support and the break up of the union will be all of their own doing.
But I wouldn't rule out the dirty tricks they control 99% of the media here in Scotland .
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Yoons are their own undoing. They should just have kept their promises and been respectful like they said they would. There would be much reduced appetite for independence.
But it’s not in them. They cannot resist putting the boot in and damaging their own cause in the process.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
Is the pretendy parliament still there ?
Aye they can shut the Scottish parliament down and they can sell the NHS and there's nothing we can do about it in Scotland.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
Is the pretendy parliament still there ?
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
100% correct Pete.
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It was all fulfilled
That is a lie. The Smith Commission did not make the Scottish Parliament permanent, and it also failed to deliver on many of the powers proposed to it.
Lies like yours annoy people and will cost you your union. Quite poetic really.
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.
The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.
Did they abstain from Fox Hunting legislation that had no affect in Scotland?
Sunday trading hours?
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It was all fulfilled
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.
The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.
The Vow was kept deliberately vague and the promises kept from what I can see.
(https://fournews-assets-prod-s3-ew1-nmprod.s3.amazonaws.com/media/2015/09/vow.jpg)
I don't see how Cameron couldn't mention EVEL despite it not being in The Vow though. It seemed fair enough. Sadly, the grudge and grievance Nhationalists tried to make out he was wrong for even suggesting it.
The Smith Commission failed to deliver even the first sentence of the Vow. EVEL means that England’s MPs get a vote on Scottish, Welsh and NI reserved affairs but Scottish, Welsh and NI MPs don’t get a vote on English reserved affairs.
It is unionists who are dismantling the union, through sheer bad faith.
I don't see how the first sentence wasnt fulfilled?
I agree about many Unionist politicians harming the Union though. Many of them shoot themselves in the foot every time.
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.
The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.
The Vow was kept deliberately vague and the promises kept from what I can see.
(https://fournews-assets-prod-s3-ew1-nmprod.s3.amazonaws.com/media/2015/09/vow.jpg)
I don't see how Cameron couldn't mention EVEL despite it not being in The Vow though. It seemed fair enough. Sadly, the grudge and grievance Nhationalists tried to make out he was wrong for even suggesting it.
The Smith Commission failed to deliver even the first sentence of the Vow. EVEL means that England’s MPs get a vote on Scottish, Welsh and NI reserved affairs but Scottish, Welsh and NI MPs don’t get a vote on English reserved affairs.
It is unionists who are dismantling the union, through sheer bad faith.
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Panicking Tories after the YES campaign took the lead then out of the blue came 3 new powers just days before the vote knowing full well the light YES voters would change to no .
It did work because I saw the change .
Bit dirty of them doing that because we were in PURDAH six weeks before the vote .
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.
The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.
The Vow was kept deliberately vague and the promises kept from what I can see.
(https://fournews-assets-prod-s3-ew1-nmprod.s3.amazonaws.com/media/2015/09/vow.jpg)
I don't see how Cameron couldn't mention EVEL despite it not being in The Vow though. It seemed fair enough. Sadly, the grudge and grievance Nhationalists tried to make out he was wrong for even suggesting it.
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
Eh, England’s MPs do vote on reserved matters relating to Scotland and always have. I don’t think EVEL was in the Vow, was it? The Vow was for more powers for Scotland, up to the point of Federalism.
The SNP by principle abstain on non-Scottish matters at Westminster.
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The nats are sad as **** and are nuts. Outraged by everythibg that has to do with GB. **** them
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Mind they went off the nut when David Cameron dared to mention English votes for English laws after we voted No? Despite it being the fair thing to do. Funny how the Nats never got outraged over the fact our MPs could vote on English matters but it didn't work the other way round.
Absolute crackers. You'd have thought he was about to nuke the place.
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-curious-case-of-carrier-naming-outrage/
They love a bit of mock, manufactured outrage. Not surprised to see The National involved.
Thankfully it's being covered up more and more in the shops leaving them unable to spread their manufactured outrage as easily ;)
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-curious-case-of-carrier-naming-outrage/