EthicalScottishFitba
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: guest19 on September 07, 2020, 07:53:19 pm
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I thought you hated all the divisiveness LionMo?
I do but it is here for a long time yet. It has been here for 5 years plus,and is not going to stop.
It would stop if the nationalists gave up on pushing for independence for a generation but they are not going to. It is their fault all the divisiveness so anyone that gets to them is a good person to me 🙂
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I thought you hated all the divisiveness LionMo?
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
Has he been called out lol? I'd love to see the context of this, as well as the 'false' highland clearances claims. I believe Neil Oliver to be a man of integrity.
Yeah, it’s a bit of a twitter rabbit hole and I’m sure he has deleted a few tweets, but he was challenged about his claims of being a historian and subsequently changed his Twitter. His website still says it though.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SzHD5V/D8-D2603-B-74-AA-4-E42-97-CC-CC99022-F416-F.png) (https://ibb.co/TwTZGSR)
Gets right up the Nats noses so that’s good enough for me.
It is brilliant how he winds them up. Anyone that does that is a great person 🙂
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Struggling to remember all the details but here’s his twitter header.
(https://i.ibb.co/sbS9PJ7/BD1-AEFBD-0-FC6-47-E9-9-C23-460-BA0-FF570-F.png) (https://ibb.co/HBvT2pZ)
On the clearances, he goes against every actual historian and claims there weren’t really any clearances but instead highlanders left by themselves in search of adventure.
Mmmh. I'd need to read some quotes in context before I comment.
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Struggling to remember all the details but here’s his twitter header.
(https://i.ibb.co/sbS9PJ7/BD1-AEFBD-0-FC6-47-E9-9-C23-460-BA0-FF570-F.png) (https://ibb.co/HBvT2pZ)
On the clearances, he goes against every actual historian and claims there weren’t really any clearances but instead highlanders left by themselves in search of adventure.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
Has he been called out lol? I'd love to see the context of this, as well as the 'false' highland clearances claims. I believe Neil Oliver to be a man of integrity.
Yeah, it’s a bit of a twitter rabbit hole and I’m sure he has deleted a few tweets, but he was challenged about his claims of being a historian and subsequently changed his Twitter. His website still says it though.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SzHD5V/D8-D2603-B-74-AA-4-E42-97-CC-CC99022-F416-F.png) (https://ibb.co/TwTZGSR)
It sounds to me like he's a qualified archeologist, but also a historian in the very sense of the word.
He knows loads about, and is most likely obsessed with, history. When he is fronting historical programmes and bringing out history books, I think it's fair that he calls himself a historian.
He probably just dropped the tag on Twitter because those poor, downtrodden, fine, upstanding, virtuous Nats were making a huge deal out of his lack of a qualification and making him out to be some sort of fraud.
No wonder he's against Scottish Nationalism when it produces those who conduct these attacks. The articles about him in The National are pretty obsessive.
What did he say about the clearances that was wrong?
Also, what other historians have called him out?
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
Has he been called out lol? I'd love to see the context of this, as well as the 'false' highland clearances claims. I believe Neil Oliver to be a man of integrity.
Yeah, it’s a bit of a twitter rabbit hole and I’m sure he has deleted a few tweets, but he was challenged about his claims of being a historian and subsequently changed his Twitter. His website still says it though.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SzHD5V/D8-D2603-B-74-AA-4-E42-97-CC-CC99022-F416-F.png) (https://ibb.co/TwTZGSR)
Gets right up the Nats noses so that’s good enough for me.
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My brother in law (the good one) shared a flat with him when they were at university. Is still in touch with him and says he is a very intelligent guy that is easy to get on with. He really likes him, thats good enough for me.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
Has he been called out lol? I'd love to see the context of this, as well as the 'false' highland clearances claims. I believe Neil Oliver to be a man of integrity.
Yeah, it’s a bit of a twitter rabbit hole and I’m sure he has deleted a few tweets, but he was challenged about his claims of being a historian and subsequently changed his Twitter. His website still says it though.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SzHD5V/D8-D2603-B-74-AA-4-E42-97-CC-CC99022-F416-F.png) (https://ibb.co/TwTZGSR)
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The amount of articles dedicated to Neil Oliver in 'The National' is incredible!
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
Has he been called out lol? I'd love to see the context of this, as well as the 'false' highland clearances claims. I believe Neil Oliver to be a man of integrity.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
His twitter now makes clear he is not, after having been called out on it by historians. He must have forgotten to update his website.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
I’ve only ever heard him on the radio but he seems to talk a lot of sense.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
If he claims on his website he's one then he must be one IMO.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
He has often claimed to be a historian and still does so on his website, though his twitter says he isn’t one.
His friendly Yoon media often present him as being a historian.
His take that the Clearances weren’t in fact clearances but people shipping off for a bit of adventure and derring-do is a bit of an outlier.
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It would take a heart of stone not to chuckle at this pic.
(https://i.ibb.co/C2KLMYG/06-D3-E4-BB-40-EB-4-B5-F-B3-C1-B55400-D1-F3-D0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6B0Q1TC)
He looks pretty cool there.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
Not sure what you mean mate.
Sorry, I went off on one a bit.
In what was has Neil Oliver given false information regarding the highland clearances?
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
Not sure what you mean mate.
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I don't think him or anyone claims he's a historian, but what's he said wrong about the clearances?
He is an absolute gem of a man.
See Neil Oliver and diamonds? One and the same.
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I'm never up or down about him .
But he's no historian.
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I have always disliked Kneel Allover, even before I learned of his hatred of Scotland revisionism regarding the Clearances. He loves to play the victim.
Looking forward to renewing my NTS membership next month.
I pressed report to moderator by mistake meant to like .
Oops sorry about that.
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It would take a heart of stone not to chuckle at this pic.
(https://i.ibb.co/C2KLMYG/06-D3-E4-BB-40-EB-4-B5-F-B3-C1-B55400-D1-F3-D0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6B0Q1TC)
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I always enjoyed Burnistoun’s lampooning of Kneel.
[youtube] https://youtu.be/hYQt0nZ088w[/youtube]
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I have always disliked Kneel Allover, even before I learned of his hatred of Scotland revisionism regarding the Clearances. He loves to play the victim.
Looking forward to renewing my NTS membership next month.
He was spot on about the clearances IMO.
He wouldn’t know though, he isn’t a historian. Most actual historians who have knowledge in the area would disagree strongly with him.
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I have always disliked Kneel Allover, even before I learned of his hatred of Scotland revisionism regarding the Clearances. He loves to play the victim.
Looking forward to renewing my NTS membership next month.
He was spot on about the clearances IMO.
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I have always disliked Kneel Allover, even before I learned of his hatred of Scotland revisionism regarding the Clearances. He loves to play the victim.
Looking forward to renewing my NTS membership next month.
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I have to say that my admiration grows for this man by the day.
He is not scared to speak out against the Nhationalists, unlike so many others.
The way he was attacked for merely saying he loved David Starkey was a dhisgrace, especially since Starkey didn't actually say anything controversial. Starkey talks sense IMO, especially about the BhLM protests triggered by the Gheorge Floyd dheath.
The Nats hate him...which means he must be doing something right.
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was Starkey the drummer in the Bheatles?
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He was a good player for Falkirk
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I have to say that my admiration grows for this man by the day.
He is not scared to speak out against the Nhationalists, unlike so many others.
The way he was attacked for merely saying he loved David Starkey was a dhisgrace, especially since Starkey didn't actually say anything controversial. Starkey talks sense IMO, especially about the BhLM protests triggered by the Gheorge Floyd dheath.