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Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on September 01, 2020, 01:00:24 pm
The most intense game I ever attended was the game of hate in 1999. The atmosphere was utter poison because it was a Sunday tea time kick off the night before a bank holiday and so many people in the stadium were absolutely smashed.

The Mahe red card, the coin at Dallas and it just exploded. Even though we got pumped 3-0 (I think) I enjoyed it. A guy near me fell off the top tier and was stretched away, and cars were being smashed outside the ground. Think McNamara hooked Hateley square in the jaw.

One thing the scenes resulted in was that Dallas got away with him refereeing performance, which was diabolical.

Did McNamara punch Hateley in the Sky studio?

My mistake, different  game.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest7 on September 01, 2020, 12:57:18 pm
The most intense game I ever attended was the game of hate in 1999. The atmosphere was utter poison because it was a Sunday tea time kick off the night before a bank holiday and so many people in the stadium were absolutely smashed.

The Mahe red card, the coin at Dallas and it just exploded. Even though we got pumped 3-0 (I think) I enjoyed it. A guy near me fell off the top tier and was stretched away, and cars were being smashed outside the ground. Think McNamara hooked Hateley square in the jaw.

One thing the scenes resulted in was that Dallas got away with him refereeing performance, which was diabolical.

Did McNamara punch Hateley in the Sky studio?
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Buc on September 01, 2020, 12:29:48 pm
I know Aberdeen fans have rivalry against Rangers .

But my rivalry finishes when the game ends . Not much time for shouting abusive behaviour against any club .

But they are in a minority with most club football fans .

I've got mixed feelings about that sort of thing, Buc.

You can't beat a truly poisonous atmosphere at a game IMO, it really gets the blood pumping.  Although as I've gotten older, I feel less of an urge to shout abuse at players or other fans, but there's still something special about a chant sweeping round a large group of people.. even if it's abusive.  There should always be limits to abuse though IMO, I'd stop short at something that I know would really hurt or depress someone.  As much as it can be fun, we must remember that players and opposition fans are human beings.

However, I just can't understand those who actually hate other people in 'real life' because they support a different team.  It makes no sense to me.

Your last statement is exactly how I feel .

You also have good points above which I agree with too.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Sir Brenty on August 31, 2020, 09:50:13 pm
Ha ha, it would certainly be nice to have
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 09:49:00 pm
Pedro, is there an ignore function on here?
Not sure Coynester. Maybe MrRambo will have discovered it! 😀
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Sir Brenty on August 31, 2020, 09:35:40 pm
Pedro, is there an ignore function on here?
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest17 on August 31, 2020, 08:43:44 pm
I know Aberdeen fans have rivalry against Rangers .

But my rivalry finishes when the game ends . Not much time for shouting abusive behaviour against any club .

But they are in a minority with most club football fans .

I've got mixed feelings about that sort of thing, Buc.

You can't beat a truly poisonous atmosphere at a game IMO, it really gets the blood pumping.  Although as I've gotten older, I feel less of an urge to shout abuse at players or other fans, but there's still something special about a chant sweeping round a large group of people.. even if it's abusive.  There should always be limits to abuse though IMO, I'd stop short at something that I know would really hurt or depress someone.  As much as it can be fun, we must remember that players and opposition fans are human beings.

However, I just can't understand those who actually hate other people in 'real life' because they support a different team.  It makes no sense to me.

I don't know anyone that hates someone just because of who they support.

That only happens in Scottish politics.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest19 on August 31, 2020, 08:18:14 pm
The most intense game I ever attended was the game of hate in 1999. The atmosphere was utter poison because it was a Sunday tea time kick off the night before a bank holiday and so many people in the stadium were absolutely smashed.

The Mahe red card, the coin at Dallas and it just exploded. Even though we got pumped 3-0 (I think) I enjoyed it. A guy near me fell off the top tier and was stretched away, and cars were being smashed outside the ground. Think McNamara hooked Hateley square in the jaw.

One thing the scenes resulted in was that Dallas got away with him refereeing performance, which was diabolical.

I watched that on the telly!  Couldn't get a ticket.

My most intense game was Aberdeen at Pittodrie in 2002.  Winters hit by a coin, several fans from the Richard Donald end and the Rangers section split open, guys running on the park, Rangers fan slashed with a seat.. on the park, players taken off for a bit.  Utterly poisonous, but probably the most exciting game I'd ever been to, especially when a young BMG was in the front row and it was a Rangers win!

It was obviously brutal for those who were injured, but I'll still look back on it with fond memories of the drama.  I believe it was a 6:05PM Sunday kick offs, which were a new thing at the time.

The siege mentality when going up to Pittodrie always made it a brilliant trip.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 08:10:18 pm
The most intense game I ever attended was the game of hate in 1999. The atmosphere was utter poison because it was a Sunday tea time kick off the night before a bank holiday and so many people in the stadium were absolutely smashed.

The Mahe red card, the coin at Dallas and it just exploded. Even though we got pumped 3-0 (I think) I enjoyed it. A guy near me fell off the top tier and was stretched away, and cars were being smashed outside the ground. Think McNamara hooked Hateley square in the jaw.

One thing the scenes resulted in was that Dallas got away with him refereeing performance, which was diabolical.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest4 on August 31, 2020, 08:07:33 pm
I know Aberdeen fans have rivalry against Rangers .

But my rivalry finishes when the game ends . Not much time for shouting abusive behaviour against any club .

But they are in a minority with most club football fans .

I've got mixed feelings about that sort of thing, Buc.

You can't beat a truly poisonous atmosphere at a game IMO, it really gets the blood pumping.  Although as I've gotten older, I feel less of an urge to shout abuse at players or other fans, but there's still something special about a chant sweeping round a large group of people.. even if it's abusive.  There should always be limits to abuse though IMO, I'd stop short at something that I know would really hurt or depress someone.  As much as it can be fun, we must remember that players and opposition fans are human beings.

However, I just can't understand those who actually hate other people in 'real life' because they support a different team.  It makes no sense to me.

I don't know anyone that hates someone just because of who they support.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest19 on August 31, 2020, 07:59:56 pm
I know Aberdeen fans have rivalry against Rangers .

But my rivalry finishes when the game ends . Not much time for shouting abusive behaviour against any club .

But they are in a minority with most club football fans .

I've got mixed feelings about that sort of thing, Buc.

You can't beat a truly poisonous atmosphere at a game IMO, it really gets the blood pumping.  Although as I've gotten older, I feel less of an urge to shout abuse at players or other fans, but there's still something special about a chant sweeping round a large group of people.. even if it's abusive.  There should always be limits to abuse though IMO, I'd stop short at something that I know would really hurt or depress someone.  As much as it can be fun, we must remember that players and opposition fans are human beings.

However, I just can't understand those who actually hate other people in 'real life' because they support a different team.  It makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Buc on August 31, 2020, 07:40:14 pm
I know Aberdeen fans have rivalry against Rangers .

But my rivalry finishes when the game ends . Not much time for shouting abusive behaviour against any club .

But they are in a minority with most club football fans .
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 04:09:09 pm
There is nothing to admire in either cellick or their fhans unless you're being equally sarcastic and ironic.
We didn’t stand by and tug our forelocks while our club was mismanaged into liquidation. There is that.

And yet in 1994 it still happened 👍
Neither administration nor liquidation occurred in 1994. The club was sold from one holding company to another after a massive pressure campaign from our support. 😎
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest7 on August 31, 2020, 04:00:25 pm
There is nothing to admire in either cellick or their fhans unless you're being equally sarcastic and ironic.
We didn’t stand by and tug our forelocks while our club was mismanaged into liquidation. There is that.

And yet in 1994 it still happened 👍
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest19 on August 31, 2020, 03:46:10 pm
Being a Stone Roses fan, I have to admit that I like the 'I wanna be Edouard' song!
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 03:41:04 pm
There is nothing to admire in either cellick or their fhans unless you're being equally sarcastic and ironic.
We didn’t stand by and tug our forelocks while our club was mismanaged into liquidation. There is that.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest7 on August 31, 2020, 03:22:30 pm
There is nothing to admire in either cellick or their fhans unless you're being equally sarcastic and ironic.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest4 on August 31, 2020, 02:26:59 pm
I see our main rivals in Scotland these days as Aberdeen. I admire and respect them as a club and one of my best lifelong friends is a Friend of Dolly.

I like how they aren’t generally happy with long ball hammer throwing football even when it worked. As I Celtic fan I can relate to that given we invented sexy fitba in the 60s. Prior to that it was all people running in a funny way in straight lines in black and white, right up to and including when England won the World Cup. After 1967 the game is unrecognisable.

Curious that the Brazil 1970 side came along in short order after 1967. Coincidence? I doubt that.

There are hints of better fitba in the last 2 and a half games.

Previous to the last 3 years or so we were decent to watch but after the season we finished runners up in everything we went more direct.
About the same time Sam Cosgrove came into the team and although his goal record has been excellent the fitba style hasn't.

Back on topic, we've not got a main rival but we have plenty of good rivalrys with clubs. Mainly the OF, Hearts and Dundee Utd.
I also like to think that Aberdeen are high up on the list of most disliked by other clubs.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest16 on August 31, 2020, 01:15:23 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂

Do you mean Spurs, LionMo? Are they the main rivals to Millwall?

I think their new stadium is incredible. Much better than the awful Arsenal one.
West Ham mate. The rivalry is fierce even although we hardly ever play them. I agree about the new Spurs stadium, it is amazing. I've done a tour of the Arsenal one and it is absolute class throughout. The best of everything. Not been to a match there though and what I've heard the atmosphere is poor.

Ah , I see. West Ham’s stadium is truly awful. They would have been much better off staying at the Boleyn Ground.
It is not designed for football. The West Ham fans I know absolutely hate it.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: mrs timbo on August 31, 2020, 12:55:03 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂

Do you mean Spurs, LionMo? Are they the main rivals to Millwall?

I think their new stadium is incredible. Much better than the awful Arsenal one.
West Ham mate. The rivalry is fierce even although we hardly ever play them. I agree about the new Spurs stadium, it is amazing. I've done a tour of the Arsenal one and it is absolute class throughout. The best of everything. Not been to a match there though and what I've heard the atmosphere is poor.

Ah , I see. West Ham’s stadium is truly awful. They would have been much better off staying at the Boleyn Ground.

Definitely mr grant don't like that stadium at all.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 12:46:24 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂

Do you mean Spurs, LionMo? Are they the main rivals to Millwall?

I think their new stadium is incredible. Much better than the awful Arsenal one.
West Ham mate. The rivalry is fierce even although we hardly ever play them. I agree about the new Spurs stadium, it is amazing. I've done a tour of the Arsenal one and it is absolute class throughout. The best of everything. Not been to a match there though and what I've heard the atmosphere is poor.

Ah , I see. West Ham’s stadium is truly awful. They would have been much better off staying at the Boleyn Ground.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Beardy23 on August 31, 2020, 12:41:44 pm
No, Phuck them. next question please.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest16 on August 31, 2020, 12:35:04 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂

Do you mean Spurs, LionMo? Are they the main rivals to Millwall?

I think their new stadium is incredible. Much better than the awful Arsenal one.
West Ham mate. The rivalry is fierce even although we hardly ever play them. I agree about the new Spurs stadium, it is amazing. I've done a tour of the Arsenal one and it is absolute class throughout. The best of everything. Not been to a match there though and what I've heard the atmosphere is poor.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 12:09:27 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂

Do you mean Spurs, LionMo? Are they the main rivals to Millwall?

I think their new stadium is incredible. Much better than the awful Arsenal one.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest16 on August 31, 2020, 12:04:09 pm
Love it that they have a **** stadium for football that their fans hate. Especially moving from a proper football stadium. Also the manager who most of their support has no time for 🙂
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: PeterGrant on August 31, 2020, 11:22:10 am
I see our main rivals in Scotland these days as Aberdeen. I admire and respect them as a club and one of my best lifelong friends is a Friend of Dolly.

I like how they aren’t generally happy with long ball hammer throwing football even when it worked. As I Celtic fan I can relate to that given we invented sexy fitba in the 60s. Prior to that it was all people running in a funny way in straight lines in black and white, right up to and including when England won the World Cup. After 1967 the game is unrecognisable.

Curious that the Brazil 1970 side came along in short order after 1967. Coincidence? I doubt that.
Title: Re: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: Sir Brenty on August 30, 2020, 09:04:02 pm
I admire Steven Thompson and Big Daft Mixu.

What a combined effort that ended up in a beautiful Monday at an absolutely bouncing Dens Park 👍
Title: Can you say something nice about your club's rivals?
Post by: guest19 on August 30, 2020, 09:00:26 pm
I challenge everyone to say a good point about their team's most bitter rivals!

This may be hard for many, and it'll be interesting to see who everyone classes as their rivals.  Will the sheepies go for Rangers? :)

I have something that I admire the Celtic support for, but I'd like to see what others say first!