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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 09:38:28 am

Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Fremsley on November 30, 2020, 09:22:52 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again

Whether you think he lied or not, I believe AJ to be acting in good faith and have saw nothing to suggest otherwise.

For fixations, I refer you to the posts of you and others regarding my presence on Deemad :)
Someone said you were posting on Deemad? No big deal

The fixation you have just makes you repeat the same stuff over and over. It's a common theme I've noticed.

A grown man in the huff refusing to post on an Internet messageboard unless he gets an apology. FFS how sad is that 🤣 and the fact you seem to be his spokesman who runs back to tell him the stuff you have posted to get a pat on the head. Tragic man

You are better than this mate 🙂

Nice attempt to try and reframe the current situation mate, but you need to try harder next time.
Are you lonely?
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 09:17:47 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again

Whether you think he lied or not, I believe AJ to be acting in good faith and have saw nothing to suggest otherwise.

For fixations, I refer you to the posts of you and others regarding my presence on Deemad :)
Someone said you were posting on Deemad? No big deal

The fixation you have just makes you repeat the same stuff over and over. It's a common theme I've noticed.

A grown man in the huff refusing to post on an Internet messageboard unless he gets an apology. FFS how sad is that 🤣 and the fact you seem to be his spokesman who runs back to tell him the stuff you have posted to get a pat on the head. Tragic man

You are better than this mate 🙂

Nice attempt to try and reframe the current situation mate, but you need to try harder next time.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: PeterGrant on November 30, 2020, 09:16:23 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again

Whether you think he lied or not, I believe AJ to be acting in good faith and have saw nothing to suggest otherwise.

For fixations, I refer you to the posts of you and others regarding my presence on Deemad :)

I guess I just have my own views on AJ’s motivations and behaviours. He can be a man or a mouse; its entirely his decision.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Fremsley on November 30, 2020, 09:05:10 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again

Whether you think he lied or not, I believe AJ to be acting in good faith and have saw nothing to suggest otherwise.

For fixations, I refer you to the posts of you and others regarding my presence on Deemad :)
Someone said you were posting on Deemad? No big deal

The fixation you have just makes you repeat the same stuff over and over. It's a common theme I've noticed.

A grown man in the huff refusing to post on an Internet messageboard unless he gets an apology. FFS how sad is that 🤣 and the fact you seem to be his spokesman who runs back to tell him the stuff you have posted to get a pat on the head. Tragic man

You are better than this mate 🙂
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 08:59:09 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again

Whether you think he lied or not, I believe AJ to be acting in good faith and have saw nothing to suggest otherwise.

For fixations, I refer you to the posts of you and others regarding my presence on Deemad :)
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Fremsley on November 30, 2020, 08:51:43 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
He repeatedly lied that the post was about Coyne. Are you OK, Hardliner? You're getting fixated again
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Sir Brenty on November 30, 2020, 08:47:45 pm
😂😂😂

Hootsville
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 08:46:21 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.

I've not seen any evidence of a refusal of AJ to acknowledge any wrongdoing, nor any of him not acting in anything other than good faith.

It's my honest opinion that in the event of an apology, you'd see a much valued poster return to the fray and change the dynamic (which at present is WB top heavy), helping the board not just get back to where it was, but be even better, allowing you to succeed in your quest to dwarf Faniel's board.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest7 on November 30, 2020, 04:23:12 pm
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

Haha, that's rich coming from you ya big drip 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: PeterGrant on November 30, 2020, 01:58:05 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.

I think AJ’s failure to behave like an adult and to acknowledge any part of his own wrongdoing might be preventing from actually feeling sorry regarding the errors I made.

I regret them of course, but do I feel truly an apology is merited given AJ’s conduct? I don’t.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 01:49:34 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .

Absolutely, Buc.  I completely agree.

If I was to make error(s) that negatively affected someone and admitted that they were errors, then I'd be sorry and mean it.

My sincere belief is that Peter truly is sorry but just doesn't want to say publicly.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: PeterGrant on November 30, 2020, 01:47:03 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .
I agree Buc. Apologising is very empowering.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Buc on November 30, 2020, 01:44:15 pm
I'm all for people being apologetic but they have to mean it and not just say it.

I've apologized many times over the years if I've been wrong it's the best way to be but it has to come from inside and not just say it because it's the right thing to do .
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Sir Brenty on November 30, 2020, 11:47:27 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

I don't know, are you?

Poor attempt at deflection.

Not really made of strong stuff after all eh 😂😂😂

It depends how you play it going forward mate.

If you go on a self imposed ban for doxing Noah as well as join the campaign for Pete to apologise for his errors, then that could go a long way to you being made of strong stuff.

That takes balls though, as well as swallowing your pride.  Have you got what it takes?

OYF 😂😁😂

Desperate times for Hardliner and the CC
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 11:20:38 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

I don't know, are you?

Poor attempt at deflection.

Not really made of strong stuff after all eh 😂😂😂

It depends how you play it going forward mate.

If you go on a self imposed ban for doxing Noah as well as join the campaign for Pete to apologise for his errors, then that could go a long way to you being made of strong stuff.

That takes balls though, as well as swallowing your pride.  Have you got what it takes?
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Sir Brenty on November 30, 2020, 11:16:05 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

I don't know, are you?

Poor attempt at deflection.

Not really made of strong stuff after all eh 😂😂😂
Title: Re: If I'm ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 11:06:27 am
He very possibly would have had an apology as we explored the issue had he come to discuss it, however his wrongdoing, throughout and now, utterly dwarfs mine (which was at least unintentional and in good faith) and I don’t see anything resembling any acknowledgement or apology from him.

AJ demands standards from others which he does not come close to achieving himself. This is a fairly commonly held view.

A big man doesn't look for conditions before making an apology, Pete.  A true apology comes from the heart and helps alleviate one from a situation where feelings of prude can fester away and damage one's innermost core.

You've already admitted to being wrong, so I the next logical step would be to apologise.  Honestly mate, it would make you look really good.
The only condition I ever require when making an apology is that the other person is acting in good faith.

Well in that case I'm sure an apology will be forthwith!

Let me know personally when you make the apology in case I miss it please.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 11:02:25 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

I don't know, are you?
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Sir Brenty on November 30, 2020, 10:57:21 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.

Is the manchild victim going to apologise, for being a weirdo, creepy stalker?

Title: Re: If I'm ever make an error..
Post by: PeterGrant on November 30, 2020, 10:43:49 am
He very possibly would have had an apology as we explored the issue had he come to discuss it, however his wrongdoing, throughout and now, utterly dwarfs mine (which was at least unintentional and in good faith) and I don’t see anything resembling any acknowledgement or apology from him.

AJ demands standards from others which he does not come close to achieving himself. This is a fairly commonly held view.

A big man doesn't look for conditions before making an apology, Pete.  A true apology comes from the heart and helps alleviate one from a situation where feelings of prude can fester away and damage one's innermost core.

You've already admitted to being wrong, so I the next logical step would be to apologise.  Honestly mate, it would make you look really good.
The only condition I ever require when making an apology is that the other person is acting in good faith.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 10:39:49 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.

Brother AJ has always been happy for the Mighty Righties to post on absence, in fact he has encouraged it.

Peter will be able to confirm this from his time on AJ's board.
Title: Re: If I'm ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 10:38:20 am
He very possibly would have had an apology as we explored the issue had he come to discuss it, however his wrongdoing, throughout and now, utterly dwarfs mine (which was at least unintentional and in good faith) and I don’t see anything resembling any acknowledgement or apology from him.

AJ demands standards from others which he does not come close to achieving himself. This is a fairly commonly held view.

A big man doesn't look for conditions before making an apology, Pete.  A true apology comes from the heart and helps alleviate one from a situation where feelings of prude can fester away and damage one's innermost core.

You've already admitted to being wrong, so I the next logical step would be to apologise.  Honestly mate, it would make you look really good.
Title: Re: If I ever make an error..
Post by: Sir Brenty on November 30, 2020, 10:33:34 am
Hardliners is at the wind up and breaking out by posting on here, he might feel the wrath from the CC for having the audacity to post here 😂

Be lovely if AJ and DaftMo stay away.
Title: Re: If I'm ever make an error..
Post by: Cooheid on November 30, 2020, 10:05:08 am
He very possibly would have had an apology as we explored the issue had he come to discuss it, however his wrongdoing, throughout and now, utterly dwarfs mine (which was at least unintentional and in good faith) and I don’t see anything resembling any acknowledgement or apology from him.

AJ demands standards from others which he does not come close to achieving himself. This is a fairly commonly held view.

Little lord Fauntleroy is always the victim.
Title: Re: If I'm ever make an error..
Post by: PeterGrant on November 30, 2020, 09:54:04 am
He very possibly would have had an apology as we explored the issue had he come to discuss it, however his wrongdoing, throughout and now, utterly dwarfs mine (which was at least unintentional and in good faith) and I don’t see anything resembling any acknowledgement or apology from him.

AJ demands standards from others which he does not come close to achieving himself. This is a fairly commonly held view.
Title: If I ever make an error..
Post by: guest19 on November 30, 2020, 09:38:28 am
then I will apologise to the affected person.  It's a good habit to get into and helps banish feelings of pride.

Peter, you've admitted to being wrong on two counts with regards to the Disruption of 21st November.  An apology to AJ would be a good starting point for peace and reconciliation IMO.

Given the sheer number of posts on here dedicated to Brother AJ, it's clear you guys want him back!  Let's get the ball rolling, move forward and look to the future.