There will always be people that change their minds, having an open mind is a good thing. If I had to put money on it though I’d say there are more that have changed their minds the other way, purely going by what I’ve seen on social media and conversations I’ve had with folk. Social media isn’t the best barometer though as we tend to interact those with similar views to ourselves.
Last sentence 🤔
Should be a ‘with’ in there.
You the board pedant?
I didn't even notice that. I was on about what you meant with the sentence. I'm not sure that it is completely right
Oh right, I meant that people tend to follow those on twitter etc with similar views to themselves rather than those they disagree with hence why they’re only seeing those that have changed their minds to their way of thinking.
Fair enough, I see where you are coming from there.
There is definitely a split on this board of views though
And I’m sure not one of us will change their minds by anyone else on here, I’ve said on the other board that there’s been a shift in politics in recent years. Indy, brexit etc, they’re such divisive issues. Half the time policy has nothing to do with it anymore, it’s too tribal.
Annoying the ‘other side’ has become more important to some on both ‘sides’ than how their own lives are affected, I find that quite scary.
What I am scared about is if the unthinkabke happens and the other side do get another unwarranted vote and happen to win. That scares the living daylights out of me as I truely believe we would be totally **** as a country. Even more so now with the economic situation in the world with the pandemic going on. It would be absolute madness going it alone.
Personally I think brexit it has made it inevitable, without that then indyref2 wouldn’t be anywhere near the table right now, outwith those that live and breath it, certainly wouldn’t be polling at the levels it is just now. I think the majority in this country see us going in a different direction from the rest of the uk. Just my opinion like.
There is a lot of independence supporters that voted for brexit though. Anyway my opinion is vote should not be happening in the next 20 years especially with what is going on in the world. I just wish that it was taken off the table and the snp started to do what they get paid for and that is to govern our country properly and sort out the mess they have made of it.
I’m sure many did, I doubt many voted for where we are now though, I voted for brexit too but regretted it very quickly, Some people get offended when I imply people didn’t know what they were voting for because they think I’m calling them stupid, I’m not at all but I genuinely think many had no idea about the possible ramifications, I know that Northern Ireland never even entered my head as a possible problem, I had very little understanding of the single market etc.
The problem is that of the 17 odd million that voted brexit you could probably split them into 10 different categories of what they wanted, immigration was never a factor for me, I would’ve been happy with a Norway style arrangement, no political involvement but access to the single market. The problem with that is you’d have to accept freedom of movement and that would never fly with a lot of people, hence why may immediately imposed her ‘red lines’. She backed herself into a corner massively
I voted to stay in the eu but my wife voted to leave. It is the only time that we have disagreed on a vote. I agree with you that there are many different reasons people voted to leave and freedom of movement is a massive one especially for the people down south in cities. I wish that it didn't happen but as a believer in democracy then I accept the result of the vote. I wish up here the result of the independence vote was accepted by the losing side but unfortunately they only believe in democracy if the vote goes their way.
The vast majority did accept it, I was disappointed, I thought it was a missed opportunity but I was happy to accept it and I believe if Cameron hadn’t promised the brexit referendum in 2015 then the vast majority of yes voters would have also happily accepted it, many who were 50/50 and were fearful of losing our eu membership voted no after being told it was the only way to ensure eu membership only for Cameron to 180 the following year, eu citizens living here had the vote and they will have largely voted no I’d imagine to ensure their lives here were maintained, I’d guess they’d vote very differently next time, that’s a lot of people.
I think you’re maybe guilty of labelling every yes voter as some rabid, nationalist, lunatic. Of all the people I know in my life that voted yes I can hand on heart say that I’d describe 2 of them as nationalists, guys that would have voted yes regardless of what it would do to the country.
It has not been accepted though and most certainly should be. Once in a generation we were promised. With all that is happening in the world do you not think it is time to put it on the back burner and concentrate on more important things ?
I label every yes voter that has not accepted the result of the democratic vote very selfish, not believers in democracy and absolute fools (and that is me being nice) for wanting to put the country and its people through another diversive, unwanted and uneeded referendum. They are prepared to bankrupt us for a pipedream and I find it increrdibly stupid and unforgiveable.
“We were promised”
Yes, and Scotland was promised a lot. Those promises were broken and the unionists just chuckled away while it happened so all bets are off and that’s that.
Bleat about “once in a generation” all you like. We ain’t honouring old agreements.
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